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MotoGP Electric Class for 2019

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bornagainbiker

MotoGp is introducing an electric class for 2019:

 

 

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chademinent

Its cool, but half the fun of going to a race is hearing/feeling the bikes (or whatever is racing) and smelling the high octane racing fuel they use.  Nothing gets your blood pumping like a high revving hi horsepower motor.  Am I right? 

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r1limited

I have been reading about this for awhile, what sucks is they use one vender instead of many, this IMO is inclusive as if they wish to have competition and advances in tech, then open it to all the E bike OEMs

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bornagainbiker
12 minutes ago, r1limited said:

I have been reading about this for awhile, what sucks is they use one vender instead of many, this IMO is inclusive as if they wish to have competition and advances in tech, then open it to all the E bike OEMs

Hopefully, in the future, it will open up to include all manufacturers.  :)

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blackout

Not interested in coal powered bikes.....  The whole electric movement is misguided....

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gregjet

R1,

I am thinking the same way as you about the one manufacturer idea. Electric bikes are in their infancy and racing accelerates development hugely  when things are at this level. Almost all base mechs on ICE's were developed for racing and trickled down .

Blackout,

Electric bikes shortcomings for the road , are NOT a problem for racing. I said years ago that the limited range for them is irrevelant on a track. You can replace a power pack after each race. The limited ( usually) distance is within the range of electrics. Racing is racing. Doesn't matter what the power source. I would LOVE to race an electric and be involved in the devopment.

What made me think of it was one of our racers used a total loss ignition system and changed the battery after each race. I thought " if you can change the power source for an ICE, you can change the power source for the whole bike.

Less noise ( the biggest headache our track had was the encroaching suburb whingeing and we had strictly controlled noise emmisions). Less dangerous in the pits ( no inflammable volatiles). Don't have to walk around at MotoGP races with earplugs in all day.

While I think in a country like Australia that pure electric powered vehicles will never be practical, a better designed hybrid system ( ice/electric with the ICE powering the electric engine) wll probably be the answer as you can make the ICE EXTREMELY efficient if it runs a one or two fixed rpm. This would work for motorcycles as well. The range from you fuel would be greater for more torque ( HP is not the important factor for distance).

Or fuel cells.

And it doesn't mean the total end of ICE's for racing. People still race horses and sailboats ( even slow monohulls).

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norcal616

These electric motorcycles and electric dirt bikes are a good thing, let's ppl build more tracks closer to urban areas rather than building a track out in the "sticks" ...even would let the track owners host late night races or maybe a 24hr race than wouldn't even bother a grumpy ole man taking a nap... maybe one day e-bikes will get to compete against internal combustion...

 

 

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blackout
1 hour ago, norcal616 said:

These electric motorcycles and electric dirt bikes are a good thing, let's ppl build more tracks closer to urban areas rather than building a track out in the "sticks" ...even would let the track owners host late night races or maybe a 24hr race than wouldn't even bother a grumpy ole man taking a nap... maybe one day e-bikes will get to compete against internal combustion...

 

 

Very true!

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r1limited
3 hours ago, bornagainbiker said:

Hopefully, in the future, it will open up to include all manufacturers.  :)

But its DORNA I hold not hope

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gregjet

Doesn't DORNA stand for "abandon all hope those who venture here" in a little known  language of Spain?

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rider
7 hours ago, chademinent said:

Its cool, but half the fun of going to a race is hearing/feeling the bikes (or whatever is racing) and smelling the high octane racing fuel they use.  Nothing gets your blood pumping like a high revving hi horsepower motor.  Am I right? 

Can you imagine a drag strip or a tractor pull with no noise and no smell?  The thunder that vibrates your whole body?  No blown engine pieces flying all over the place?.  It's  like chips without salsa.  Eggs without bacon.  A fart (your own fart) with no noise or smell.

Yeah, the competition is there and it will advance e-bikes by leaps and bounds and thats great, but where's the fun?  Gonna need a whole bunch of cards in their spokes.

Maybe I'm just too much of a redneck...

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shinyribs

Electric bikes are ok. But long live internal combustion! 

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bornagainbiker

I love the howl of a high revving litre engine, but I think the future is electric--fossil fuel is a finite resource, that's nearing its end.

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r1limited
52 minutes ago, bornagainbiker said:

I love the howl of a high revving litre engine, but I think the future is electric--fossil fuel is a finite resource, that's nearing its end.

No way watch Soilient green man ;)

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r1limited

The biggest issue for me on electric as @gregjet stated the tech for batteries is not there and the cost is prohibited for me.  I wont spend 10k on a bike I can ride for 20 - 40 minutes then charge for 4 - 6 hours.  Ya the tech is cool, but it is simply not advanced enough for me.  Firstadopters what we call those who like t play in alpha and beta software hardware are the ones willing to shell out that cash and as well the amazonites and micromorons who have stupid money for inventing shity stuff

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