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markstertt

dakar race bikes?

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markstertt

I've been watching the Dakar races and wondered what model Yamaha, KTM & Hondas were being used. KTM looks like a single, but not sure of Honda or Yamaha...are twins allowed to run? Tenere? Africa twin?

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mossrider

Not sure of all makes/models but here's a good link that explains a lot....

 

 

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markstertt

Interesting, thank you mossrider...Mark

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markstertt

I did see a clip of Lyndon (from the video) crashing out but haven't seen him mentioned again...what did surprise me was to see Andrew Short in the Dakar on a Husky and not doing to bad...I thought when he had retired from super/motocross that I wouldn't see him anymore and always liked watching Shorty, a decent racer and a seemingly decent guy.

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markstertt

Just to finish this off if anyone is interested, I'm guessing the Dakar bike class is now all singles and even though I can't remember the winners name I did follow Andrew Short and he finished 17th riding the last 2 days on a broken ankle. He said he would have quit if it weren't for the fact that his family was waiting for him at the finish...and he was smiling, I think he did very well for his first Dakar and bet that he'll be back.

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fzar
1 hour ago, markstertt said:

Just to finish this off if anyone is interested, I'm guessing the Dakar bike class is now all singles and even though I can't remember the winners name I did follow Andrew Short and he finished 17th riding the last 2 days on a broken ankle. He said he would have quit if it weren't for the fact that his family was waiting for him at the finish...and he was smiling, I think he did very well for his first Dakar and bet that he'll be back.

Matthias Walkner was the winner, an Austrian on an Austrian.

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markstertt
3 hours ago, fzar said:

Matthias Walkner was the winner, an Austrian on an Austrian.

Yep, you got it thanks...Mark

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gregjet

Walkner pulled a  Bradbury on an Australian ( google it. Olympic speed skating). Karma is a bitch...

 

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r1limited

They limited the displacments to 450cc in 2011, Yamah WR45- based, Honda CR450x KTM the rest assume the same, putting names behnd them as rally is marketing crap.  Simply they are 450s

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markstertt
2 hours ago, r1limited said:

They limited the displacments to 450cc in 2011, Yamah WR45- based, Honda CR450x KTM the rest assume the same, putting names behnd them as rally is marketing crap.  Simply they are 450s

I wonder if anyone has tried the 2 wheel drive kitted 450's? 

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faffi

Engine capacity and cylinder restrictions came as a result of the many high speed accidents - the 750 to litre bikes had immense top speeds, in addition to being very heavy. The 450s are plenty fast, though. KTM has won the 17 last races, but if it wasn't for a serious accident, it seems likely Yamaha could have ended that streak this year.

 

 

One of the extreme machines from the early days.

 

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markstertt

Faffi...thanks for the videos, I knew that they had run multi cylinders but didn't realize they'd use 4 cylinder machines. I can't imagine an off road crash at 100+ mph so no wonder more than a few riders died in the past.

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faffi

I know that Peterhansel won the Paris-Dakar 6 times on a Yamaha (and an additional 7 times on four wheels), but to me, Gaston Rahier is the all time hero of the race. A tiny man winning twice on what likely is the biggest and heaviest machine competing. http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a24671/1985-peak-wtf-moment-a-tiny-belgian-won-dakar-against-all-odds/

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fzar
4 hours ago, markstertt said:

I wonder if anyone has tried the 2 wheel drive kitted 450's? 

As far as I know Yes they did, it was yamaha who ran it if memory serves me correctly, jeez. It was when the race had a opening liaison stage in Dover, England before taking the chunnel (I think) on to Paris for a opening ceremony. It was towards the time they were about to pull it from Dakar and where taking alternate routes though other African countries. I remember the 2 wheel drive system running along the fork, man it was a long time ago. All of this is from distant memory, so I maybe wrong about Dover and the chunnel and that, but I am certain of the 2-wheel drive bike doing Dakar. It looked more like the enduro-cross 450's as opposed to the bigger Adventure bike's.

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9 hours ago, fzar said:

As far as I know Yes they did, it was yamaha who ran it if memory serves me correctly, jeez. It was when the race had a opening liaison stage in Dover, England before taking the chunnel (I think) on to Paris for a opening ceremony. It was towards the time they were about to pull it from Dakar and where taking alternate routes though other African countries. I remember the 2 wheel drive system running along the fork, man it was a long time ago. All of this is from distant memory, so I maybe wrong about Dover and the chunnel and that, but I am certain of the 2-wheel drive bike doing Dakar. It looked more like the enduro-cross 450's as opposed to the bigger Adventure bike's.

Yes that all sounds about right...the maker of the kit is now selling a complete bike and I think it's a Chinese knock off of the Honda 450 with his front wheel drive kit already installed, I'm thinking about $13,000.00 US, it or he has an Italian sounding name that I just can't remember at the moment. 

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