Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted December 19, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted December 19, 2017 New competition from Suzuki. Here in Canada this model is $100 less than the new MT07. https://www.suzuki.ca/?q=en/node/4500 Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grefshk Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 They only offer it in one color. That might be a turn off for some buyers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I am no Suzi fan but I have always wanted a SV, The can on that thing is huge “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grefshk Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, r1limited said: I am no Suzi fan but I have always wanted a SV, The can on that thing is huge I almost bought a SV over the FZ when I was bike shopping! Got talked out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, grefshk said: I almost bought a SV over the FZ when I was bike shopping! Got talked out of it I would had punched that person for Blasphomy then burned them at the stake while getting seaguls to poop on them. I like the SV, but wont buy it, something about sumsukmes bother me. Maybe it was thet GT380 that tried to kill me or that old Tm400 Cyclone widow maker, but me no like suzi that much. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grefshk Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, r1limited said: I would had punched that person for Blasphomy then burned them at the stake while getting seaguls to poop on them. I like the SV, but wont buy it, something about sumsukmes bother me. Maybe it was thet GT380 that tried to kill me or that old Tm400 Cyclone widow maker, but me no like suzi that much. I don't know what I was thinking but I'm so glad I was talked out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted December 19, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 19, 2017 34 minutes ago, r1limited said: I am no Suzi fan but I have always wanted a SV, The can on that thing is huge I like the look of this model, but yeah, that muffler is ugly. I guess Suzuki decided to take all the stuff that Yamaha hides under the bike and stick right out in plain sight--what were they thinking? Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 One of the project bikes I have in mind is a SV of course Grand National Flat Tracker “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted December 19, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, r1limited said: One of the project bikes I have in mind is a SV of course Grand National Flat Tracker Wouldn't the FZ-07, with it's gobs of mid-range torque be a bit better suited to Flat Track? Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 https://www.cycleworld.com/yamaha-fz-07-based-flat-track-concept-dt-07-street-tracker-custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, bornagainbiker said: Wouldn't the FZ-07, with it's gobs of mid-range torque be a bit better suited to Flat Track? Thats my 1st project. What I have decided to design is 1 FZ07 motor, with electrical 1 Southland Industres Rolling GNC chassis The rest is in my head Imagine this street legal “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Chad Cose National #49 on his SV “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 the powerplant is a gem if a bit long in the tooth. It's not as high-zoot as the FZ07. The brakes and suspension are still sh*t from 1999 for which there is absolutely no excuse except it's cheap, cheap, cheap. The styling since the Gladius is atrocious IMO but then again the only SV I like is the Gen1. I don't know why they keep trying to resuscitate the Glad aside from it's frame is cheap to make. What part of "it looks like ass and therefore doesn't sell" doesn't Suzi get? Bring back the Gen2 if you must, put 4-pots and single-leg KYB cartridge (nee GSXS750), an adjustable GSXR600 shock from a decade ago, and preso Kaw won't sell a single Ninja 650 ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 39 minutes ago, pattonme said: the powerplant is a gem if a bit long in the tooth. It's not as high-zoot as the FZ07. The brakes and suspension are still sh*t from 1999 for which there is absolutely no excuse except it's cheap, cheap, cheap. The styling since the Gladius is atrocious IMO but then again the only SV I like is the Gen1. I don't know why they keep trying to resuscitate the Glad aside from it's frame is cheap to make. What part of "it looks like ass and therefore doesn't sell" doesn't Suzi get? Bring back the Gen2 if you must, put 4-pots and single-leg KYB cartridge (nee GSXS750), an adjustable GSXR600 shock from a decade ago, and preso Kaw won't sell a single Ninja 650 ever again. As long as kawasiaki is winning GNC races on the 650, well I beg to differ, the SV aint won SHEET “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VertigoTX Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 It's another nice option, but will require some customization (like most bikes). The ugly muffler can easily be remedied with a slip on, as there are tons for the SV and are inexpensive compared to our exhaust options. I really wanted to test ride one against the FZ, as I was interested in both. Unfortunately, they are special order only in central Arkansas, so Suzuki lost the chance. The dealer was also a bit rude about it. I'm quite happy I got the FZ instead, though sometimes wish I had waited and spent a little more on the XSR. Oh well, they are practically the same bike mechanically, and I'm having a blast while saving ~1500. No regrets here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev74 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If Suzuki would invest a bit more in design, like on this special SV version, they would sell much more bikes imho. Suzuki always making great engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 7 hours ago, r1limited said: One of the project bikes I have in mind is a SV of course Grand National Flat Tracker don't waste your time. The CG is wrong and the bike "doesn't turn". Says some folks. The P-twins are much better in that respect. Packing a v-twin is a b*tch and doubles the cost of the heads which is why 270deg PTwins will be the way forward even if some of us prefer otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, pattonme said: don't waste your time. The CG is wrong and the bike "doesn't turn". Says some folks. The P-twins are much better in that respect. Packing a v-twin is a b*tch and doubles the cost of the heads which is why 270deg PTwins will be the way forward even if some of us prefer otherwise. Yup, but it would make a hell of a canyon carver “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick97702 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Holy "cow"! It's a solid 40lbs heavier than the FZ07! OINK OINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member DewMan Posted December 20, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted December 20, 2017 Eww. Not a fan of it's styling. It looks cobbled together from a 1980s parts bin. DewMan Just shut up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, DewMan said: Eww. Not a fan of it's styling. It looks cobbled together from a 1980s parts bin. Welcome to Suzuki. The extra 40 lbs is probably all in the exhaust. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Cruizin said: Welcome to Suzuki. The extra 40 lbs is probably all in the exhaust. Not so sure if the sv is runner up for biggest can or the honda “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 the SV looks like ass, the Honda one, is at least presentable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyribs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 9:26 AM, grefshk said: I almost bought a SV over the FZ when I was bike shopping! Got talked out of it I was looking closely at the SV, too. The fact that the SV had been around for so long, and it had a good reputation for reliability, I was kinda leaning that way. But, and you can't see it well in any pictures online, the plumbing on the SV drives me crazy. There's a LOT of water hoses just flapping in the breeze around the front head pipe, which is also way out there itself. The SV isn't finished as nicely as the FZ. It's literally like someone took a faired bike and just stripped it - with no plans to clean up what's underneath at all. The ergos were all wrong, too. That SV looks nice, but that standard box swingarm still looks a couple decades out of date. Small things like that drive me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyribs Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 10:02 AM, bornagainbiker said: Wouldn't the FZ-07, with it's gobs of mid-range torque be a bit better suited to Flat Track? Both engines ( FZ and SV) make nearly identical power. The FZ power delivery feels a touch more "electric" to me, but I don't know if anyone would really notice much of a difference without riding the bikes back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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