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jbone
Been using Mobil 1 since new , as I do all my motor vehicles. My dad is a long time auto tech and always swore by it and told me he'd beat the stupid out of me if he caught me using anything else. In the FZ, it seemed smooth but felt there was much room for improvement. So, I switched to Rotella T6 last week as a lot of people swear by it, and I gotta say, I noticed a big improvement. I always thought shifting from 1-2 was noticeably less smooth than 2-6 and just figured I sucked. Rotella fixed that issue and then some. Anyway, thought I'd share my experience in the event any of you are having similar issues and consider switching oils.
 
 
 
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dem3500
thats diesel oil. i wouldnt run that. completely different type of engine. i dont believe its made for wet clutches

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faffi
Diesel oils are fine for motorycles - they are made to run very hot with turbos spinning 100,000 rpm or more in addition to suffering heat from very high compression.

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worty
also look on page 97. the oil specifications are on that page and the rotella does not meet either of yamahas requirments for oil types 
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/837941/Yamaha-Mt-07.html?page=97#manual
 
Recommended engine oil grade:
..API service SG type or higher..
..JASO standard MA..
 

 
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It meet all the requirements.  It's all I've ever used in my Bikes (road and MX), ATV and car.  I even use the use ATV oil in my lawnmower and pressure washer. 
but It your bike.  Use what you want.  I'll stay with the Rotella T6 in eveything
 
 
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chuckles
I was running T3 15-40 which was Jaso-ma but it appears shell discontinued the t3 and replaced it with T4 which only lists Jaso-dh2. I'm going to miss my $12+filter oil changes :(

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rossco
I know a lot of people using Rotella. just because it says Diesel it scares a ton of people away. lots of R1 users even use it for racing.

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dem3500
rotella is API type CJ4. yamaha calls for API type SG. the other from rotella is JASO standard DH2. yamaha calls for JASO standard MA. im not trying to argue im new here but have been down the oil discussion route in powersports many many times. at a minimum you want a wet clutch compatible oil which rotella is not. now i have no idea what kind of consequences will come from using rotella if any but why would you use a oil that is not designed for our engines and doesnt meet any specifications? im not going to argue. just trying to state the facts is all.
 
 

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dem3500
I was running T3 15-40 which was Jaso-ma but it appears shell discontinued the t3 and replaced it with T4 which only lists Jaso-dh2. I'm going to miss my $12+filter oil changes :(
there you go! your on the same page as i am.

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peteinpa
You have to look for it but jaso ma is on my jug of t6 Rotella.
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dem3500
You have to look for it but jaso ma is on my jug of t6 Rotella.
all i can go off of is the shell data sheet they have online.

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jmacas87
Rotella T4 15w-40 and T6 5w-40 synthetic ARE JASO MA/MA2 rated. 
 
I've used both T4 and T6 in all my bikes with no issues at all. Save money and change it often and keep that fresh oil feeling without breaking the bank. A jug of the T4 is like 15 bucks or something at wally world.

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dem3500
ok here is the live web page. the data sheet originally posted was from 2013. on the current web page it does list its JASO MA/MA2 but does not meet the API service SG so even at that it only meets half of the requirements and is not wet clutch compatable.

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faffi
SG is a very old standard and the Rotella surpass it by a long way http://www.pqiamerica.com/Labels.htm
 
My old 1978 Honda CX500 said to use SE 10W40 and change it every 7500 miles. You cannot find SE oil today. Doesn't mean the specifications are not met.
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ok here is the live web page. the data sheet originally posted was from 2013. on the current web page it does list its JASO MA/MA2 but does not meet the API service SG so even at that it only meets half of the requirements and is not wet clutch compatable.
 
 
The SG rating is obsolete so nobody uses it anymore.
http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm
 
The Rotella t6 is API SM rated so it's fine for gasoline engines.
 
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chuckles
Rotella T4 15w-40 and T6 5w-40 synthetic ARE JASO MA/MA2 rated.  
I've used both T4 and T6 in all my bikes with no issues at all. Save money and change it often and keep that fresh oil feeling without breaking the bank. A jug of the T4 is like 15 bucks or something at wally world.
On the Rotella website the T4 is only listed at JASO DH-2 (10W-30 only, 15W-40 shows no JASO Spec), The T6 Full Synthetic is still listed as JASO MA/MA2. Additionally the T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30 only shows JASO DH-2. Here is the website, http://rotella.shell.com/products.html

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jmacas87
Rotella T4 15w-40 and T6 5w-40 synthetic ARE JASO MA/MA2 rated.  
I've used both T4 and T6 in all my bikes with no issues at all. Save money and change it often and keep that fresh oil feeling without breaking the bank. A jug of the T4 is like 15 bucks or something at wally world.
On the Rotella website the T4 is only listed at JASO DH-2 (10W-30 only, 15W-40 shows no JASO Spec), The T6 Full Synthetic is still listed as JASO MA/MA2. Additionally the T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30 only shows JASO DH-2. Here is the website, http://rotella.shell.com/products.html
straight from the T4 triple protection webpage....yo have it backwards. 15w-40 is ok 10w-30 not listed for MA/MA2.  
http://rotella.shell.com/products/rotella-triple-protection.html
 
for t6
http://rotella.shell.com/products/t6-full-synthetic.html
 
 
With all due respect, look a little closer
 
 
 
 
JASO.jpg
 
jasot6.jpg
 
 
That said I agree with the post above. People have been using these oils for way too long with success for us to have any doubt that people who want to use it in their bikes should have no problem. 
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chuckles
On the Rotella website the T4 is only listed at JASO DH-2 (10W-30 only, 15W-40 shows no JASO Spec), The T6 Full Synthetic is still listed as JASO MA/MA2. Additionally the T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30 only shows JASO DH-2. Here is the website, http://rotella.shell.com/products.html
straight from the T4 triple protection webpage....yo have it backwards. 15w-40 is ok 10w-30 not listed for MA/MA2.  
http://rotella.shell.com/products/rotella-triple-protection.html
 
for t6
http://rotella.shell.com/products/t6-full-synthetic.html
 
 
With all due respect, look a little closer
 
 
 
 
JASO.jpg
 
jasot6.jpg
 
 
That said I agree with the post above. People have been using these oils for way too long with success for us to have any doubt that people who want to use it in their bikes should have no problem. 
 
 
You are 100% correct, that's what I get for speed reading at work haha. Looks like I'll be running 15-40 T4 on my next change. I've used rotella T3 on pretty much every type engine without any problems, when I saw they discontinued it and went to T4 I had some concerns. The 15-40 at my local napa only listed the DH-2 standard on the back and I guess I missed the ma/ma2 listing on the website.

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DewMan
Damn, look what I started...
What were you thinking?  :D 

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Just shut up and ride.

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Beemer
Damn, look what I started...
But you weren't on a Harley when you did it so you're forgiven.  :D 
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