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Sweeps
Been happening increasingly the past month. About every 40 shifts up I am not getting into second gear no matter my speed. Is it me or the bike? Been riding a good amount of time and don't think it's me being lazy on up shifts. So what's the remedy please?

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ddog
If it's not happening all the time, it's probably you.
 
You may want to try adjusting your shift lever down to make sure you're getting your toe high enough when you're upshifting.
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cmill189
How is your chain slack? When my bike was new the chain stretched like crazy over the first 1,000 miles. Every time I thought I couldn't shift at all it turned out to be way out of adjustment.
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ralph
Make sure you are letting the lever return to it.s rest position
and you are not letting your boot rest on it between changes also
that the linkage and lever are free to move.
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mecmar44
When you say missing, do you end up in 3rd or do you feel like your up-shift didn't shift into 2nd? I've noticed that depending on what shoes/boots I'm wearing has an effect on my shift habits. As Ralph mentioned make sure you are letting the lever return to its rest position. I noticed on the ride into work this morning wearing my riding boots that I had to be intentional about letting the lever return. Another thing I've tried was after the lever has returned to its rest position, apply light pressure prior to pulling in the clutch lever.
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elmo
Sweeps,
I agree with previous post.
My issue was randomly not getting to 3rd gear, and discovered my foot was not allowing shifter to completely return back to rest position. My solution was to raise the shifter 5mm.
 
 
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Sweeps
I have zero issues 3-4-5-6. It's always 1-2. So not thinking the shifter is too low. I adjusted the cable but still happening. I am at 4000 km. The chain is good. Really not enjoying this.

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rick
Hate to say this, but if it's just that gear change, you might have some wear or damage to the shift drum or the dogs that engage on those gears. There's no easy fix - the motor gets pulled and the cases split. You might be able to get to the shift fork w/o pulling the motor, but if the drum dog for that shift is worn, well, it's still some work to replace.
 
How many miles? What kind of oil are you using and how long ago was it last changed. If yer still running dino oil or worse, oil meant to be in a car and not a gearbox, switch to at least a semi-synth motorcycle specific oil. Not likely it'll change yer life, but, it's easy enough to do and might help.
 
Only other thing I can add to the good advice above, check the shift linkage for lube/smoothness and/or slop from wear.

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USMCFieldMP
Can you make it to second if you're just sitting still? Are you taking care to ensure you're pulling the shift lever all the way up?
 
Every now and again, I'll have a day when I'll hit neutral about 5 times when trying to go to 2nd. It's always a case of me trying to quick shift and not actually pulling the lever all the way up with my foot.
 
Outside of that, if you are ensuring your pulling the lever all the way up... and it's still not making it into second, you very likely have an internal problem.
 

How is your chain slack? When my bike was new the chain stretched like crazy over the first 1,000 miles. Every time I thought I couldn't shift at all it turned out to be way out of adjustment.
 
I don't think chain slack should affect your shifting. That's just not how things work mechanically. I've had a loose chain before... no affect on shifting.

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Sweeps
I have 4000 km did the factory service and had factory oil installed at 1500 km. Yes I can run the gears at a stand still without the engine running without difficulty

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USMCFieldMP
I didn't mean without the engine running... I meant with the engine running. If you're just sitting there, can you pop 1 to 2 without issue? If you can do it sitting still without issue, then it is most likely an issue with YOU if you can't do it properly when moving.

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norcal616
another idea, you can easily pull away at a stoplight in 2nd gear.. i hate 1st gear on this bike, its the same as 2nd gear to me...2nd gear is about 5mph faster at my shift point compared to 1st gear...
 
 
extreme option is to convert to GP style shifting...

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rick
I have 4000 km did the factory service and had factory oil installed at 1500 km. Yes I can run the gears at a stand still without the engine running without difficulty
Trying to get my head around why it would shift OK w/o the motor running 
Seems to me that if it shifts fine w/o the motor running, that says the drum and shift fork are probably OK. So it's gotta be something else.
 
Have you checked the clutch freeplay and adjusted it to spec. If there's too much freeplay, you might not be opening the clutch pack quite enough. W/neutral in between, 1st to 2nd is the longest shift of the bunch - and usually the easiest to miss anyway. I still do it on occasion if I don't get my big ol boot under the lever fully. But that's not the bike's fault, that would be me being lazy.
 
If it's still under warranty, ask the dealer to ride it - or find someone you trust to ride it.  If it's mis-shifting on them as well, something is wrong and it'll likely be a manufacturing issue. Hard to imagine those bits worn out so soon.
 
Personally, I'd dump the Yamalube stuff and switch to at least a semi-synthetic oil. Everything will work better. Might not help, but won't hurt.
 
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r1limited
^^ Accept the switch to semi.
 
As many mentioned Ergo, Ergo Ergo, It can be anything from where the foot is placed under the lever, to clutch play. I have found the gear box a tad clunky compared to what I am used to. IMO only if you have a rear stand and a spare body around to assist (Not Required), set the bike up on the stand both feet on the pegs and note where your foot (Shift Side) or feet for that matter rest on the pegs when you are in riding position. Are you struggling to get your boot under the lever, will the boot hit the side of the lever? It is easy to adjust the shift linkage to get your boot to feel comfortable. Many riders do not attend to the ergonomics of their riding style to fit comfortable on the bike. Same as the rear brake, adjust it to be where you want it to be when in a riding position. Each location should take minimal effort to engage.
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Sweeps
My riding ergonomics are really good. One of the reasons I like the bike is it fits my preferred riding position. My foot isn't prematurely lifting or not fully disengaging the lever on shifts. Maybe I am shifting too low on the rpm around town? I will switch to new synthetic oil asap.

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