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mrfat17
Hi all,
 
Do you have a luggage rack with a top case or a strapped on tail bag? Can you tell me the pros and cons? Can you recommend any luggage racks/top cases/tail bags?
 
I'd like to have something that can carry a couple changes of clothes, some water, protein bars, etc. more or less, an overnight bag.
 
Thanks,
 
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babisstinson
I have the Bagster Spider, it is a great tail bag that I use daily. It can hold many things and the quality is great. Plus, it has a latching system with bungee cords that doesn't need any tail rack, so when you remove the bag only 6 latches can be seen around the passenger seat.
 
http://www.bagster.com/spider-210.html
http://mt07.it/bb/archive/index.php/thread-1669.html
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zsoci

I have a Held tailbag. It is strapped on to the rear seat, but it can be taken off with a zipper quickly without removing the seat. It is very nice quality, however the size is not that big. I can easily fit my phone, keys, 0.5 liter bottle in it without using the expansion. On one of the photos you can see it opened up. It also can be used as a backpack…
https://shop.held.de/en/accessories/luggage/textiles/4294/strap-system-rear-bag/tankbag-tenda?c=790&number=004541-00.1.Stck
 
 
 
 
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Redstang4
Aesthetically I'd go with the Held over the Bagster.  Though I(as many others do) have the Cycle guys tail bag.

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hobbs
Hi all, 
Do you have a luggage rack with a top case or a strapped on tail bag? Can you tell me the pros and cons? Can you recommend any luggage racks/top cases/tail bags?
 
I'd like to have something that can carry a couple changes of clothes, some water, protein bars, etc. more or less, an overnight bag.
 
Thanks,
 
mrfat17
 
 
The most simple, easy method would be to spend 20 or 30 bucks on a pair of rokstraps. They work really well with the loops on the pillon. Then you can strap down a small day bag, backpack, drysack... or whatever you already have without buying marked up "motorcycle gear".
 
Haven't had a problem in over 30k miles with mine. That includes duffel bags, backpacks and smaller bags up to (but not sustained) 3 digit speeds.
 
http://www.rokstraps.com/

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rick
I added a SW Motech rack cause I didn't want my great big Nelson Rigg seat bag rubbing on that nice matte finish on the tail section. With a tank too small to take my larger tankbag, a big seat bag comes in handy for hauling that kitchen sink.

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disappointingtexan
I added a SW Motech rack cause I didn't want my great big Nelson Rigg seat bag rubbing on that nice matte finish on the tail section. With a tank too small to take my larger tankbag, a big seat bag comes in handy for hauling that kitchen sink.
What's your (I'm assuming) long term review on the SW Motech rack? I am thinking of putting some sort of rack on but am still hesitant to get to chopping up the tail section to install it.  
The lines - the beautiful minimalist lines!

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rick
As with the OE Yamaha rack, you have to poke holes in the tail section to access rear mounts for the rack. But unlike the OE Yamaha rack, you do not need cut big ugly rectangles. The 2 holes per side are nice and round and can be made small enough that there's almost no gap between the posts (2 each side) and the plastic. And because the rack is black and sorta angular, it looks more like it belongs than the Yamaha version, which, to my eye, is a bit garish. http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-alu-rack-toprack-for-yamaha-fz-07
 
Also, you almost have to be on a knee to see where those posts pass thru the plastic
 
It's always gonna be a trade-off with styling. If it bugs you, any rack will, no matter how practical or how well it blends in. I leave my Blaze bags on all the time anyway, so it looks way more sport tourer, than nekkid.
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disappointingtexan
As with the OE Yamaha rack, you have to poke holes in the tail section to access rear mounts for the rack. But unlike the OE Yamaha rack, you do not need cut big ugly rectangles. The 2 holes per side are nice and round and can be made small enough that there's almost no gap between the posts (2 each side) and the plastic. And because the rack is black and sorta angular, it looks more like it belongs than the Yamaha version, which, to my eye, is a bit garish. http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-alu-rack-toprack-for-yamaha-fz-07 
Also, you almost have to be on a knee to see where those posts pass thru the plastic
 
It's always gonna be a trade-off with styling. If it bugs you, any rack will, no matter how practical or how well it blends in. I leave my Blaze bags on all the time anyway, so it looks way more sport tourer, than nekkid.
I feel like that's the direction I'm heading anyway with my mods --> sport tourer. I mean, she just begs to let loose out in the backroads anyway.  
Thanks for the feedback!

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markstertt
I'm using Shrikes side bags (forum fender, check out vendor section) and a Nelson-Rigg 1060 tail bag bought off a forum member in classified section of this forum. I fabricated up a tail plate to replace the pillion seat for mounting the bag, it mounts and locks using components from stock rear seat (ebay spare). This isn't necessary but nice as on and off is now super easy. The Shrike side bags are the definition of easy to mount/dismount and do not affect the stock bike parts at all. For a 3-4 day trip, I have room for minimal clothing (vest, undies, socks, jungle hat, gloves, long johns, spare shirt & pants) but bulky stuff like jacket has to be worn. Water, tools, snacks, camera, glasses, flash light etc. gravitated to the tail bag by end of trip and I didn't need to expand the tail bag to it's unzipped tall size so still had room for perhaps a small camp stove.
 
 
Since the Shrike bags mount to a flat alloy back plate it leaves one the option of enlarging this plate for special purposes such installing a larger bag, ammo can, protrusion for small spare fuel container etc., only have to use your imagination. The Shrike bags open using a dual zipper top flap which at the moment isn't lockable but James at Shrike is working on a simple locking mechanism to keep out the casual miscreant, should be retrofittable to original bags but I won't speak for Shrike, however, it would be a welcome addition for when you want to leave the bike for lunch or a bathroom break.
 
The Shrike bags are compact and blend nicely with the lines of the bike
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What looks like the buddy peg folded up is the entire modification to the bike to
mount the Shrikes and is adjustable to swing the bags in or out if needed for blinker
clearance or whatever.
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Rear view of Shrikes, small but clean and fit close, the Nelson-Rigg bag will strap
to stock rear seat but was to fiddly for me so I had to make a mount plate.
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rick
The rear mounts are way inboard on the SW Motech rack. Even if you removed it, the holes would take some looking for. You can see the heads of the bolts facing up in the 1st pict. 
 
And my monster seat bag in the 2nd. Kinda like carrying a passenger, lol
 
 
 
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myrcode
I think I'm getting the first set with the locking zipper. James sent me a photo of the prototype, which I can upload later when I get home.

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ducttapewd40
I have a pair of Nelson Rig saddlebags that get strapped on. They do hold a huge amount and I like that the weight sits a little lower. They go on and come off pretty easy and don't need anything permanently attached to the bike. Plus they're pretty universal so there's no need to buy different bags or mounts if you get another bike.

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Beemer
I have the Cycle Guys tail bag and I love it but unfortunately it won't hold everything you mentioned. You need something bigger.

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disappointingtexan
The rear mounts are way inboard on the SW Motech rack. Even if you removed it, the holes would take some looking for. You can see the heads of the bolts facing up in the 1st pict.  
And my monster seat bag in the 2nd. Kinda like carrying a passenger, lol
 
 
 
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@rick, do you find that when stuff is on the rack, it blocks drivers' view of your brake lights? Any sudden stops or close in cars as a result behind you?

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