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azuryn
Most motorcycles will never see 25,000 miles in their lives. The exception would be touring bikes, but you can still find them with 1000 miles a year ridden.
Is it just me or does this seem a bit low? I'm positive you can get into the 6 digit range easily with proper maintenance.

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panchobullet
So far I've been Yamalube Full Synthetic 15W50 but I'm planning to move over Motul 300V Full Synthetic 15W50 in the next change with a K&N 204 filter.
 
- Pancho

You've never seen me cause I'm too damn fast!

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bmwpowere36m3
Most motorcycles will never see 25,000 miles in their lives. The exception would be touring bikes, but you can still find them with 1000 miles a year ridden.
Is it just me or does this seem a bit low? I'm positive you can get into the 6 digit range easily with proper maintenance.
He's not referring to maintenance/life, I think... just the fact that most guys don't log that kind of mileage onto their bikes.  In the last couple years I've only put about 3-4k a year on my bike, due to other obligations and riding season is only 6 or so months up here in the NE.
 
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bmwpowere36m3
I just turned 2000 miles on my FZ. When should I change the oil?
1400 miles ago... ;) Did you change the oil at the 600 mile service?
 

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azuryn
Is it just me or does this seem a bit low? I'm positive you can get into the 6 digit range easily with proper maintenance.
He's not referring to maintenance/life, I think... just the fact that most guys don't log that kind of mileage onto their bikes.  In the last couple years I've only put about 3-4k a year on my bike, due to other obligations and riding season is only 6 or so months up here in the NE.

Ah ok, makes more sense. Also as a SoCal guy the season never ends = ) 

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twowheeladdict
He's not referring to maintenance/life, I think... just the fact that most guys don't log that kind of mileage onto their bikes.  In the last couple years I've only put about 3-4k a year on my bike, due to other obligations and riding season is only 6 or so months up here in the NE.

Ah ok, makes more sense. Also as a SoCal guy the season never ends = )
 
 
You wouldn't belive how many used bikes are out there with under 25,000 miles on them, and I am talking up to 40 year old motorcycles. Touring style bikes are the exception, but you can still find low mileage examples.
 
So far in 2016 I have put 5300 miles on my Road Glide Ultra, 3800 miles on my Triumph trophy se, and 1100 miles on the FZ07.

2015 FZ-07

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ddog
Mobil 1 98JA11 10W-40 Racing 4T Motorcycle Oil

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hobbs
Mobil 1 synthetic has carried me over to the 21,000 mile mark. Had to use Castrol once or twice when the shelves were bare.

Everything went braap.

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killerfz
I just did my oil change just after the 600 miles I used 10w50 castrol synthetic oil I live in az so the heat is bad and I used a K&N oil filter I used all three quarts yet my level indicator doesn't want to even out when I turn off the bike :/

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bmwpowere36m3
Should be a little less than 3 qts…. warm bike up, shut it off, on a level surface, hold the bike upright (or have a helper do it), get down on a knee and look at the oil sight glass. Ideally it'll be between the two marks stamped on the oil pan around the glass.
 
Could be the K&N filter is a little larger than stock, but I doubt enough to make a difference.  I suspect you aren't checking it correctly.  Could be the glass is totally full of clean/clearish-yellow oil and you think it isn't showing.  Have someone tip the bike over to the right and then left and watch the glass.

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dentalprodigy
Had no idea synthetic could be had for soo cheap. I'll try Rotella T6 next. Did Yamalube at ~4800 miles and it was $28 bucks! Rotella T6 is only ~$22. It's been 3400 miles since my last oil change. Good thing I read this thread and changing oil every ~3k miles because I was planning on following the 6k intervals as stated in user manual. On a cold start, bike doesn't start up right away. I have to wait keep holding the red start button down for an awkward 1.5 second. Not sure if related.
 
Is Rotella T6 better than yamalube 10w-40 right?

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bmwpowere36m3
Rotella T6 is classified a synthetic in the US (Grp III), but its really a very, very refined conventional/mineral oil. It's a decent oil, but reports show it has poor shear resistance (in a shared sump engine). For a "cheap" good oil, I'd just use Rotella TTT (15W-40) which has much better shear resistance. Its my go to oil in almost everything... motorcycles, cars, trucks, OPE, etc.
 
If you want to use a real good synthetic I'd look elsewhere. I'm currently running Mobil 1 15W-50 mixed 50/50 with Mobil TS 5W-40 (both synthetic oils, non-EC).
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bigdaddybane
Mobil 1 98JA11 10W-40 Racing 4T Motorcycle Oil
How you like Mobil?

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thomascrown
I've seen back to back lab tests of motul 7100 vs. shell Rotella T6 on a ZX14 at around 2k miles. The difference in sheer strength at that interval was maybe 2 or 3 percent, the motul being very slightly better.
 
I've swapped from 7100 to T6, and the bike runs just as well. I'd rather run a cheap oil and change more frequently to maintain a slick shift than keep the expensive motul in for all 4k miles, and have terrible shifting for the last 1k.
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ddog
Mobil 1 98JA11 10W-40 Racing 4T Motorcycle Oil
How you like Mobil?
 
I feel like the shifts are smoother, but it's hard to say without having another fz07 around with a different oil. I've been using Mobil since the first oil change around 600 miles and at around 4k now it's been good.

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jpiazza7
Just bought Mobil1 4T 10W-40 (and KN-204) for the 2nd time.  Didn't quite know where to add this to the forum but..
I was looking online to purchase and stumbled upon Walmart, yes Walmart.  I step inside a Walmart once a year and have never shopped online, but I found both items at great prices.  Their website was super quick and easy and order was placed in a flash.  (3) quarts of Mobil1 4T 10W-40 and (1) KN-204 filter for $41.81 OTD. AND orders +$35 has free 2-day shipping.  Look out Amazon!  So yea, props to the Walmart.

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level41
Rather than brands, would you play around with these oil values in your bike?:
If so, do you change in summer vs winter oil?
 
0W20
5W20
5W30
10W30
5W40
10W40
15W40
 
(semi) Synthetic vs dino?
 

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peteinpa
I am also confused why Yamaha still has a temp.-viscosity chart. Thats what they had in the 70s and 80s.
 
This is a liquid cooled bike. Outside air temp is irrellavant.
 
I'm a Honda bike guy and Honda changed its oil reccomendations recently to 10W-30 across the board.
 
Even for the 250 Nighthawk, an air cooled engine with no oil filter, 10-30 is called for.
 
I'm going to run 10-30 in my FZ-07 all the time..

Got new red 2015 FZ-07 on 7/22/16!
Black 2006 Honda ST1300 53K miles.

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mugen
According to the temp.-viscosity chart, it looks like I'll be running 15W-40. Which brand though, I have no idea. I'll probably end up doing hours of research before I choose one.
 
EDIT: It looks like I'll be going with Silkolene. Now to choose between 10W-40 or 15W-50. I live in Southern California so weather is usually warm.
 

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yamahaha
The 07 transmission seems to favour the heavier grades. 15/40 makes for a smoother transmission and goes longer before that notchy feeling.

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mugen
The 07 transmission seems to favour the heavier grades. 15/40 makes for a smoother transmission and goes longer before that notchy feeling.
If I go with Silkolene, they don't have 15/40. The closest they have is either 10/40 or 15/50. With the warmer climate here I think 15/50 would be my best bet. Probably Comp 4 15W-50 XP (since someone in this thread said ester is good).

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jmacas87
@mugen
Wouldn't over think it.
Grew up in socal it's not overly warm or cold.
Pick whatever brand you're into 10w-40, 15w40 or whatever you're fine.
 
Change it at proper intervals or sooner that's more important.

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mugen
Alright thanks haha I do tend to overthink and over plan sometimes.

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mossrider
Doesn't mean much in the street world but Motul 300V changed after every race weekend (roughly 300 miles) in the FZ07.
 
Amsoil 20w-50 in the Guzzi and Harley @ ~5000 miles.
 
Shell Rotella in the RD350's (gearbox) once a year, Amsoil Dominator injection/premix oil.
 
 
My .02

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