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Minimum rpm for cruising in 6th?

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What's the minimum RPM you feel comfortable cruising the bike in, in 6th (that's higher than idle, and still gives you some acceleration).?
 
I know below a certain RPM, most smaller bikes can be lugged. Even my VT750 didn't like below 2k RPM.
Just like to know what this bike can take, and where it has problems with...

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norcal616
I believe your question is gonna be a personal preference...Nobody rides the same way...

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level41
I guess I can specify better,
If I were to accelerate to a certain speed, shift into 6th gear, and just keep cruising; and occasionally want to surpass a car, in a similar mild manner that you would pass vehicles in a car (not pedal to the metal, but gentle)...
 
I read some reporter being quite happy cruising at 2k RPM, due to the massive low Rev torque this bike has.

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gregjet
As norcal said. Very definitely personal preference.
If you like to just open the throttle and rocket past things you need to be higher in the rev band. If you don't even have to think about changing gear ( people like me that have spend way too many years riding and racing small capacity bikes), then a low rpm cruise with the motor just bit about labour is fine.
To some extent the lower the rpm the lower the fuel consumption ( not really that simple but it'll do) and on a bike with this tiny tank that could be a consideration.

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redharris
It sorta depends on your Mood at the time. When I'm riding on a Busy freeway and there are numerous vehicles in close proximity, I tend to ride highly alert and be slightly paranoid. I keep the revs around 5-6 K rpm in either 5th or 6th gear (depending on freeway speeds at the time). At 5-6 Krpm, in 5th gear @ 65mph,,,,,throttle response is instantaneous and you can Rocket yourself out of an uncomfortable situation very quickly as the revs reach for 7 and 8 K rpm.
6th gear is not quite so instantaneous. It takes a second or two for the power to come on under those circumstances in 6th gear. If you are cruising at 80 mph in 6th gear at around 6K rpm, all you gotta do is twist the throttle and you'll see 90 and above real quick.
 
Now, if you are on a nice lonely highway, just tooling along and enjoying the scenery, with no worries, and you want the bike to be very mild mannered,,,,,you can easily cruise along at only 3000 rpm in 6th gear......You just cannot expect instant acceleration in 6th gear under those circumstances.
 
Just Depends on your Mood,,,,,and your surroundings.....
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pattonme
I cruise at 4K rpm minimum and match gear to road speed.

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kakusaizou
I've noticed the rpms stay the same on 5th and 6th gear at 40mph. I only cruise on 6th above this rpm, which I forget.

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norcal616
I save 6th gear for highway only... 4-5th gear from 40-60 mph...3-4th for in town cruise from 25-45mph... 2nd gear take offs... Rarely use 1st gear...

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Beemer
In my neighborhood where traffic is very low I 'feel' I can cruise safely at 35 mph in top gear. It can cruise lower than that but if you're in traffic you might want to consider you may not have time to downshift three or four gears fast enough to get into 'the gear' that will get you out of a danger zone fast enough. In traffic I keep the rpm's up so I can sh*t & git in a blink and it happens more often than most cager's would think.

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motocr
I shift into 6th around 60 mph allowing the bike to stay in eco mode. Still has plenty of passing power hell it'll go from 65 to 90 in 6th faster than you can lane check.

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recurveshooter
Hippiebikerchick once said she never hits 6th until she's doing above 60. She's right. 6th is an overdrive. Cruising at 35 in 6th means you're lugging your engine.... the FZ may have enough torque to pull that off, but it's not a good thing in the long run.
 
And you should notice a difference in rpm between 5th and 6th. I got out of the hospital last week after 8 days and am still on my back but if I remember correctly, 5th gear is about 12 mph per 1000 rpm. That's why if you rev it to redline in 5th (10,000 rpm) it will do 120mph. Sixth gear yields fewer mph per rpm.... and while I haven't tried yet, I'm pretty sure an FZ will hit a higher top speed in 5th than in 6th.
 
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level41
In my neighborhood where traffic is very low I 'feel' I can cruise safely at 35 mph in top gear. It can cruise lower than that but if you're in traffic you might want to consider you may not have time to downshift three or four gears fast enough to get into 'the gear' that will get you out of a danger zone fast enough. In traffic I keep the rpm's up so I can sh*t & git in a blink and it happens more often than most cager's would think.
You'd be riding at about 2366 RPM at that speed. Interesting!
One of my bikes (not FZ), a 2013 model, has a 2500RPM minimum; the other is a 2004 version, 3000RPM. Both are 360 deg ptwins. 
My VT750 had a 2k RPM minimum. Under that it started hiccuping horribly; above that, it had heaps of torque.

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level41
Hippiebikerchick once said she never hits 6th until she's doing above 60. She's right. 6th is an overdrive. Cruising at 35 in 6th means you're lugging your engine.... the FZ may have enough torque to pull that off, but it's not a good thing in the long run. 
And you should notice a difference in rpm between 5th and 6th. I got out of the hospital last week after 8 days and am still on my back but if I remember correctly, 5th gear is about 12 mph per 1000 rpm. That's why if you rev it to redline in 5th (10,000 rpm) it will do 120mph. Sixth gear yields fewer mph per rpm.... and while I haven't tried yet, I'm pretty sure an FZ will hit a higher top speed in 5th than in 6th.
 
recurveshooter

Who says you're lugging the engine there? Do you have any valid sources to back that up?
 
Especially since the engine has offset cylinders.
If you would open the throttle at those rpms I can understand it to be damaging to the engine,
but to ride constantly at those speeds, with little acceleration shouldn't lug it.
 
I read a lot on lugging, and a lot of people are quick to throw the term.
It may be true for older engines, but the newer engines, especially those with heaps of low end torque, are hard to almost impossible to lug, unless you mean to lug it.

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