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wakecarved
Hi guys, anyone following the "boost it turbos" instagram page? They have built possibly the first turbo fz07
"Snow mobile" very interesting although there are no videos or other pictures that i can find. It interests me as i am currently accumulating parts and having a intake manifold built for a street turbo mt07.. have already consulted a tuning shop that specializes in turbo bikes and they are ready when i am, we shall see how it goes.
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bikelife38
though this looks like a very cool project to follow, i cant help but wonder how expensive this will be for you. for such a low budget bike in the first place, is it really worth all this? like they say, there is no replacement for displacement. i dont want to sound like im discouraging you by any means. just know that for your bike and a couple grand on top you would have stock bike that would blow the doors off this thing even with the turbo and still be completely reliable 100% of the time. something you may loose when doing this...just food for thought
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batscat
I would be worried about fuel delivery and if the injectors can keep up.

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fzonly1
 

though this looks like a very cool project to follow, i cant help but wonder how expensive this will be for you. for such a low budget bike in the first place, is it really worth all this? like they say, there is no replacement for displacement. i dont want to sound like im discouraging you by any means. just know that for your bike and a couple grand on top you would have stock bike that would blow the doors off this thing even with the turbo and still be completely reliable 100% of the time. something you may loose when doing this...just food for thought
Ppl have been turbo charging cheap crap cars for decades and no one tells em anything. If I have to see another civic with a giant fart can stickin out its rear end I'll vomit. At least this project is unique and intriguing. Also nothing about this bike feels cheap (except maybe the suspension) It's not always just about speed. Having something no one else has feels special.
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wakecarved
Its never a good idea to turbo anything haha but it will be a bit of fun. It will be running for under 4 grand once all the bits and pieces are considered and the tuning cost.
The bike already has a power commander 5 in it with map sensor for reading boost and i am using a innovate scg1 boost controller with built in wideband sensor and data logging. This will cut the boost back to spring pressure (3psi) in the event of a lean situation or overboost.
The tuner told me to get hayabusa 550cc injectors and he will make them fit.
He also might fit heavier clutch springs if it starts to slip on the dyno.
The turbo is a gt15 oil only turbo rated to about 150hp.
The plenum is getting made at the moment and then the fabricator will come around and hook up all the exhaust manifold and exhaust et. Will be interesting, the tuner is confident it will scare the shit out of me, will have loads of torque.
My end goal is to build a turbo
"Cafe fighter" style bike.
With this snow mobile having been built i know it can be done now.
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fzonly1
I'm def sticking around to see this beast unleashed.

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ravenlord
though this looks like a very cool project to follow, i cant help but wonder how expensive this will be for you. for such a low budget bike in the first place, is it really worth all this? like they say, there is no replacement for displacement. i dont want to sound like im discouraging you by any means. just know that for your bike and a couple grand on top you would have stock bike that would blow the doors off this thing even with the turbo and still be completely reliable 100% of the time. something you may loose when doing this...just food for thought
False. The replacement for displacement is more air or higher RPM. BMW, 3.2L I6 makes 333hp. Toyota 3.0L I6 makes 320hp. 5.7L LS1 makes 325hp. All similar HP figures, all using a different method of producing said power. As for wasting money on making something cool... Yes it is a waste of money. But at the end of the day saying, "I have a turbo'd motorcycle" sounds cooler than, My literbike does 300km/h.
 
 
 
What are your power goals? and what are you looking at for boost levels? Larger injectors I would assume are on their way? and do you have any plans on dropping the CR to get power, or just try it with a really rich tune to keep her from popping?
 
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hobbs
I want to see the outcome of this. The @Hobbs most certainly approves.

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sorkyah
though this looks like a very cool project to follow, i cant help but wonder how expensive this will be for you. for such a low budget bike in the first place, is it really worth all this? like they say, there is no replacement for displacement. i dont want to sound like im discouraging you by any means. just know that for your bike and a couple grand on top you would have stock bike that would blow the doors off this thing even with the turbo and still be completely reliable 100% of the time. something you may loose when doing this...just food for thought
 
 
as ravenlord stated. Power delivery is all about how the engine is setup.
A 6.7l I6 cummins diesel produces somewhere around 300hp, but torque rating can be upwards of 1200lb/ft if tuned
A 5.7l v8 hemi challenger has 305hp and 400lb/ft of torque.
A 1.8l turbo in the alfa 4c has 240hp and 280lb/ft torque.
 
"No replacement for displacement" i believe was a racing saying back in the 50's/60's when engine manufacturers couldnt produce the power needed to beat competitors w/o adding more cylinders due to technology limitations in metallurgy, design, and control systems(computers vs distibutors)
 
I would also recommend lowering comp ratio
Richening it could cause all sorts of issues with carbon deposits and hotspots leading to knock/ping
 
Perhaps adding a second radiator to act as a water-air intercooler for incoming charge. Or better yet a 50cc water/meth injection system
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grahamfz07
Looks like a cool project!

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wakecarved
Id be happy with about 120hp but the tuner thinks it could make alot more.
It is staying stock cr for now if something breaks then i will rebuild it with low cr pistons.
Wastegate spring pressure is set at 3psi which the boost controller will revert too if it detects abnormal af ratios.
The tuner will decide how much boost to run and all that, he specializes in turbo bikes and the front of his shop is all crazy turbo busa's and thousands.
Its getting hayabusa 550cc injectors so i think he plans to run it rich or at least have enough fuel there if he needs it.
He said dont worry about an intercooler when i asked as it wont be running massive boost or making 200hp and he said dont worry with the fuel pump or rising regs as it wont need them with what we are aiming for. The bike will be tuned to be safe according to how the bike is built.
Just waiting on the fabricator the finish the intake manifold and then i can put it all together
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batscat
This is going to be awesome be sure to video it.
I want to hear what it sounds like.
I would definitely get a quick shifter like the one made by healtech gonna be needing to shift a lot.

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bikelife38
Ppl have been turbo charging cheap crap cars for decades and no one tells em anything. If I have to see another civic with a giant fart can stickin out its rear end I'll vomit. At least this project is unique and intriguing. Also nothing about this bike feels cheap (except maybe the suspension) It's not always just about speed. Having something no one else has feels special.
how is this any different than kids in the 70's and 80's modifying muscle cars? or you or me putting an exhaust on our bikes? its not at all. minimal power gains and extra noise. just because you dont like it doesnt mean there is something wrong with it. but i agree, this project will be awesome no doubt.  
 
and for the record...who ever said having a turbo'd bike is cooler than saying my literbike does300kmh. this is an opinion, and a fantastic one at that! i'll even agree! but there are circumstances...lets say homeboy has a lowered stretched wide tire custom paint turbo busa...is that cooler than lets say a track ready literbike? my vote goes for the track bike, BUT this is an opinion. and everyones is different and thats what makes life colorful
 

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cybmx
Thumbs up if the turbo twin weights less than the similar powered bigger displacement triple or i4.

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