Cruizin Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Oh your not being a jerk at all. It's just that Nels is staple of this forum and has earned tons of respect, so we are kinda fond of the guy. send him your ecu, you'll quickly learn why. Sorry if I was a jerk actually, I've been staying up late every night working on the forum. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted October 4, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted October 4, 2017 I see some dyno charts on very first page...bout 50% of them... 2 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum4106 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 5/13/2015 at 3:36 PM, Cruizin said: Holy crap, even on the stock exhaust chart, look at the HP increase between 4500 and 8500 RPM! Also shocked to see that stock, the FZ-07 only makes 4 more HP than my 450CC dirtbike! anyone want to race your stocker agains my dirtbike? lol That is rear wheel Horse Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum4106 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 5/22/2015 at 12:24 PM, scordiaboy515 said: First impressions after a short test ride, M4 with stock air filter, lid removed...........throttle response is much better, more progressive, not so herky jerky. Definitely can feel the extra ponies on the top end....motor is much happier at max revs.....crazy wheelies....gotta keep my foot on the rear brake in 1st and 2nd gear if ya know what i mean. Great job Nels! 8-) Stock Yamaha ECU has retarded timing curves in the first three gears.. re-flash your ECU and the bike will come to life in 1 through 3rd gears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skibum4106 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 7:38 PM, norcal616 said: Akra Ti- best hp/tq by a good margin ...it's close to 75whp/55TQ IXIL- THE WORST EXHAUST- performance is well below a tuned stock exhaust flash... I can't even recall the HP/TQ but it was bad... All others name brands such as arrow, graves, leo vince, etc all perform really close to each other- avg differ was up to 1.5hp or tq...avg was 70whp/50TQ Dyno graphs are pretty to look at but what they totally cannot show is how much smoother the motor runs... Dynos vary a lot too .. altitude temperature barometric pressure . The only real Dyno Comparison would be to run all the tests on the same dyno same weather and temp & altitude .. It's funny a snowmobile Magazine tested a bunch of sleds on the same Dyno all their HP ratings were way high they dynoed my 2014 Ski Doo Renegade 800 at 163 HP yet my 155 HP Yamaha Attack can beat it on top end .. Two years later I read an article that the Dyno exaggerated about 10 HP on all the sleds . All these FZ-07 Owners need to meet at a Drag strip and see who has the best running bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phanomenal07 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I really wish I could see the stock and the flash+stock chart 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted December 17, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 9:10 PM, phanomenal07 said: I really wish I could see the stock and the flash+stock chart I am pretty sure this is it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted December 17, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted December 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, mjh937 said: I am pretty sure this is it. That's a juicy torque increase in the low and mid-range. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phanomenal07 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 That’s awesome. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripfitmoto Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Are there any gains to adding a k&n air filter vs the stock filter, both without a snorkel on? I plan on getting the ecu flash, I have a full Yoshi pipe installed. Before I send in my ecu, I'm just wondering if I should change up the air filter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartofperformance Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) On 12/18/2017 at 5:45 AM, mjh937 said: I am pretty sure this is it. All are stock yes? Stock exhaust and filter for both? Only differences is one from factory setting and another is with dyno-tuning? Because the torque increase seems higher than those with the aftermarket exhaust fitted? My apologies for double asking, English is not my first tongue. Edited January 10, 2018 by heartofperformance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 12/26/2017 at 2:51 PM, tripfitmoto said: Are there any gains to adding a k&n air filter vs the stock filter, both without a snorkel on? I plan on getting the ecu flash, I have a full Yoshi pipe installed. Before I send in my ecu, I'm just wondering if I should change up the air filter too. No gains changing to an aftermarket air filter in my opinion. The standard air filter flows well. You might see an additional 1 horsepower or so at certain rpms (everything counts), but it requires significantly more custom fueling maps in the ecu specific to the filter type. Removing the airbox snorkel also makes a difference, the fueling has been adjusted to suit in most popular ecu flashes, if in doubt ask the tuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted January 10, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, heartofperformance said: All are stock yes? Stock exhaust and filter for both? Only differences is one from factory setting and another is with dyno-tuning? Because the torque increase seems higher than those with the aftermarket exhaust fitted? My apologies for double asking, English is not my first tongue. It is a stock exhaust with the intake snorkel removed. I may be wrong but I think most aftermarket exhausts end up with less torque than stock because they have less back pressure. If you have an aftermarket exhaust with proper fueling you will get more horsepower at the cost of some torque. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ07R WaNaB Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, mjh937 said: I may be wrong but I think most aftermarket exhausts end up with less torque than stock because they have less back pressure. Not true based on the original dyno charts from various exhausts from 2WDW - typically most of the pipes gain at least 1-2 lbs in torque. Of course, those numbers are with a tuned flash for that pipe. The one that appears to decrease torque is removing the db killer from the exhaust which does reduce back pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranapplescott Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 5/13/2015 at 9:47 PM, 2wheeldynoworks said: Here are a couple graphs from our flash for the FZ-07 Blue: Stock Red: Flashed + Stock Exhaust Green: Flashed + Akrapovic Carbon Exhaust Blue: Stock Exhaust Red: Flash + Stock Exhaust Red: Full Yoshimura Exhaust Snorkel Removed Blue: Full Yoshimura Exhaust Snorkel Not Removed Termignoni Flashed Before After Full Leo Vince 70.24 Hp 49.27 Tq M4 Slip-On IXIL System Akrapovic Ti Baffle out 74.03hp 54.07ft lb Baffle in 72.75hp 51.75ft lb SC Project Full System Baffle Out SC Project Full System Baffle in vs Baffle out M4 slip on baffle in Full Yosh Termignoni before/after Full Termi Two Brothers S1R M4 slip on with Hord Power Airbox Full Arrow A lot of the charts are not displaying, it’s saying you need to update your photobucket account to allow for 3rd party hosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted April 24, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted April 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, Cranapplescott said: A lot of the charts are not displaying, it’s saying you need to update your photobucket account to allow for 3rd party hosting this happened long ago... not much can be done about it... we just have to wait for them to get a chance to find them old dyno charts and repost em... what are you looking for? best off the shelf exhaust- Akra-Ti w/baffle worst off the shelf - Ixil- performs worst than stock all other exhaust are within a few HP/TQ of 68hp/48tq of each other aftermarket airfilter such as KN/DNA/MWR etc shows very little gains over stock airfilter in stock airbox... ****the best combo is a Hordpower Airbox w/ Yoshi exhaust for a whooping 80hp/55tq- other exhaust maps available with Hordpower Airbox 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranapplescott Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 21 hours ago, norcal616 said: this happened long ago... not much can be done about it... we just have to wait for them to get a chance to find them old dyno charts and repost em... what are you looking for? best off the shelf exhaust- Akra-Ti w/baffle worst off the shelf - Ixil- performs worst than stock all other exhaust are within a few HP/TQ of 68hp/48tq of each other aftermarket airfilter such as KN/DNA/MWR etc shows very little gains over stock airfilter in stock airbox... ****the best combo is a Hordpower Airbox w/ Yoshi exhaust for a whooping 80hp/55tq- other exhaust maps available with Hordpower Airbox I currently am running a Akra Ti with the 2wdw tune, I am just thinking about the hord box now. I have been talking to them and they sent me a graph for the Akra Carbon + box and I just wanted to compare it to the graph without the box. According to the graph they sent me (Akra Carbon + Hord box) it only makes 71hp and 49 torque, just seemed a little low against the results Hord is advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted April 25, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Cranapplescott said: According to the graph they sent me (Akra Carbon + Hord box) it only makes 71hp and 49 torque, just seemed a little low against the results Hord is advertising. Hordpower creates his own maps on his own dyno... 2WDW also created maps for his airbox on they dyno, but they are not the same maps... Akra carbon is a peaky hp/tq race pipe compared to the Yoshi or Akra-Ti which give broad wide useable power... 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Laben Posted August 14, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 14, 2018 On 4/25/2018 at 2:14 PM, Cranapplescott said: I currently am running a Akra Ti with the 2wdw tune, I am just thinking about the hord box now. I have been talking to them and they sent me a graph for the Akra Carbon + box and I just wanted to compare it to the graph without the box. According to the graph they sent me (Akra Carbon + Hord box) it only makes 71hp and 49 torque, just seemed a little low against the results Hord is advertising. So what did you end up doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanlamarr88 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Any stats/graphs on a hordpower intake w/ an akra carbon exhaust, baffle out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Evanlamarr88 said: Any stats/graphs on a hordpower intake w/ an akra carbon exhaust, baffle out? @hordboy has plenty of dyno charts on his website. Here’s a chart for the hordpower air box, tune and full yoshi exhaust (most decent full systems will give roughly the same performance) versus standard bike: FZ-07 Intake solution 2, with Yoshimura full exhaust You can really notice the additional power in the upper rev range, it revs out a lot more eagerly. Edited June 15, 2021 by stickshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamahansolo Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 5/13/2015 at 1:17 PM, 2wheeldynoworks said: Here are a couple graphs from our flash for the FZ-07 Blue: Stock Red: Flashed + Stock Exhaust Green: Flashed + Akrapovic Carbon Exhaust Blue: Stock Exhaust Red: Flash + Stock Exhaust Red: Full Yoshimura Exhaust Snorkel Removed Blue: Full Yoshimura Exhaust Snorkel Not Removed Termignoni Flashed Before After Full Leo Vince 70.24 Hp 49.27 Tq M4 Slip-On IXIL System Akrapovic Ti Baffle out 74.03hp 54.07ft lb Baffle in 72.75hp 51.75ft lb SC Project Full System Baffle Out SC Project Full System Baffle in vs Baffle out M4 slip on baffle in Full Yosh Termignoni before/after Full Termi Two Brothers S1R M4 slip on with Hord Power Airbox Full Arrow Do you still have the Akri povik charts? Thsy are missing on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yamahansolo said: Do you still have the Akri povik charts? Thsy are missing on here. All the reputable aftermarket exhausts make roughly the same power & torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamahansolo Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, stickshift said: All the reputable aftermarket exhausts make roughly the same power & torque. I was told by Nathan the Akri carbon made more mid range and low than the ti did. Just curious to see the graph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickshift Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Yamahansolo said: I was told by Nathan the Akri carbon made more mid range and low than the ti did. Just curious to see the graph Akra has charts for all their exhausts on their website: Akrapovič The carbon model makes more power than the current ti version (with carbon fibre tip), and is lighter than ti versions. The older ti version (no carbon tip) makes more power and torque than the carbon, and won't contact the ground if you drop the bike. Edited August 13, 2021 by stickshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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