Premium Member wickedtwister Posted April 15, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is a quick how to on the Custom Led's i made into my rear side panels on my FZ07. First of all modifying the turn signals from stock to ones that are not DOT or ECE approved is probably illegal, and should be done so at your own risk. That being said the thing i hated most about the bike is the turn signals so i did something about it. Parts You will need. Right and Left side panel inserts. Any yamaha dealer should be able to order them. I paid less than $5 each for them. 1WS-2171J-00 and 1WS-217K-00 LEDs I used 2 different LED's One was a "run of the mill" 5mm round LED with a 30deg viewing angle. These were really bright looking at them dead on but at the angle they mount on the bike they were not bright enough. See image below. I finally used a 4mm LED with a 120 deg viewing angle that was nearly 3 times brighter than the first ones. These particular LED's sit flush with the panel which look very good. Below is the part number of the final ones. Cree P4 LED CP42B-RKS [span] [/span]$.20 each [span] [/span]18 required Resistors needed to reduce the voltage so the LED's dont blow. 82 Ohm 2 Watt[span] [/span][span] [/span][span] [/span][span] [span] [/span] [span] [/span][/span] $.15 each[span] [/span]6 re[span]qu[/span]ired Wire I used 18guage because that's what i had laying around. Shrink wrap Tools needed: Soldering Iron Wire cutters Wire strippers Drill and 4mm drill bit Hot glue gun Multimeter Digital calipers Step 1. Marking placement of the LED's on the side panels. I did 3 rows of 3 at each of the steps on the panels. Use Digital Calipers to find the center then mark .55" on either side of the center. Of course placement is personal preference. I center punched the panels so the drill bit does not walk. I highly recommend this step. Step 2. Use the 4mm drill bit and drill from the outside or visible side of the panel. debur the inside of the panel so the LED's sit flush. Step 3. Insert LED's into the panel. Its easier to wire if they all facing the same direction. I super glued them into place to keep from moving as i soldered the wires to the LED's Step 4. Wire LED's. I wired them into 3 groups of 3 LED's Not shown is the Resistors are soldered inline on the negative (black) side. When wiring is done i routed the wires towards the rear of the bike. This makes wiring a little easier. Step 5. Hot Glue LED's to panel. Im using the hot glue to seal the wiring from water. I have no idea if this will hold up in a down pour i guess time will tell. Step 6. Attach LED's to the factory rear turn signal wiring harness. I'm sure you can get these online if you don't want to cut the originals. Step 7 reinstall Panels into the bike and enjoy your new sleek turn signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member tino206 Posted April 15, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted April 15, 2015 Great write up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Guru Posted April 15, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted April 15, 2015 Excellent, thank you. I have added it to our Master List if 'How To' Guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 This is great! I've been putting off a project very much like this and your setup has given me some great ideas! Thanks for the trial/error on the LEDs. Very helpful. Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member ch3rryghost Posted April 15, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted April 15, 2015 Cool idea and great write up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx2damax Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I'm not really much of a diy guy I'm more of a do for me guy. Would you ever consider possibly making and selling a set of these for someone like me who wants to do this but lacks the ability to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wickedtwister Posted April 16, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm not really much of a diy guy I'm more of a do for me guy. Would you ever consider possibly making and selling a set of these for someone like me who wants to do this but lacks the ability to do so? I would but only after i have more time testing these. I literately finished these last night. I want to make sure they are waterproof ect. I just dont want to sell anything until i know they will last. Anyways give me a few weeks to test these out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wickedtwister Posted April 16, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm sure you guys have been wanting to see daytime and night videos of these things. I still need to put the LED flasher relay in so they blink too fast now. [video src=https://youtu.be/wqOfJ9IszqI] [video src=https://youtu.be/Qn3N6M0eFD0] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZRDR Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Great layout, where did you purchase your led's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sportyeight Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Great layout, where did you purchase your led's? They are here for the same price the OP mentioned.http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CP42B-RKS-CL0P0AA4/CP42B-RKS-CL0P0AA4-ND/1922952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photomoto Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This is SO awesome! Excellent job! I definitely want to do this. Anyone know if these would be available in orange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member phicurious86 Posted April 16, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2015 Color me impressed. Nice work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sportyeight Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 This is SO awesome! Excellent job! I definitely want to do this. Anyone know if these would be available in orange? The amber version:http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CP42B-AKS-CM0Q0264/CP42B-AKS-CM0Q0264-ND/1922953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cborcafz07 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 That is sweet and within my realm of ability. Only question, since I'm having a hard time picturing it in my minds eye, would a passenger block the signals at all being there? Thanks in advance and great job!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wickedtwister Posted April 16, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 16, 2015 That is sweet and within my realm of ability. Only question, since I'm having a hard time picturing it in my minds eye, would a passenger block the signals at all being there? Thanks in advance and great job!.I dont know if a passenger would block it, but i would not thing it would. Honestly i never thought about it because my girlfriend rides herself and refuses to ride on the back of my bike. Side luggage on the other hand definitely would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cjwwd2 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 That is badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effzee Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 This is a quick how to on the Custom Led's i made into my rear side panels on my FZ07. First of all modifying the turn signals from stock to ones that are not DOT or ECE approved is probably illegal, and should be done so at your own risk. That being said the thing i hated most about the bike is the turn signals so i did something about it. Parts You will need. Right and Left side panel inserts. Any yamaha dealer should be able to order them. I paid less than $5 each for them. 1WS-2171J-00 and 1WS-217K-00 LEDs I used 2 different LED's One was a "run of the mill" 5mm round LED with a 30deg viewing angle. These were really bright looking at them dead on but at the angle they mount on the bike they were not bright enough. See image below. I finally used a 4mm LED with a 120 deg viewing angle that was nearly 3 times brighter than the first ones. These particular LED's sit flush with the panel which look very good. Below is the part number of the final ones. Cree P4 LED CP42B-RKS [span] [/span]$.20 each [span] [/span]18 required Resistors needed to reduce the voltage so the LED's dont blow. 82 Ohm 2 Watt[span] [/span][span] [/span][span] [/span][span] [span] [/span] [span] [/span][/span] $.15 each[span] [/span]6 re[span]qu[/span]ired Wire I used 18guage because that's what i had laying around. Shrink wrap Tools needed: Soldering Iron Wire cutters Wire strippers Drill and 4mm drill bit Hot glue gun Multimeter Digital calipers Step 1. Marking placement of the LED's on the side panels. I did 3 rows of 3 at each of the steps on the panels. Use Digital Calipers to find the center then mark .55" on either side of the center. Of course placement is personal preference. I center punched the panels so the drill bit does not walk. I highly recommend this step. Step 2. Use the 4mm drill bit and drill from the outside or visible side of the panel. debur the inside of the panel so the LED's sit flush. Step 3. Insert LED's into the panel. Its easier to wire if they all facing the same direction. I super glued them into place to keep from moving as i soldered the wires to the LED's Step 4. Wire LED's. I wired them into 3 groups of 3 LED's Not shown is the Resistors are soldered inline on the negative (black) side. When wiring is done i routed the wires towards the rear of the bike. This makes wiring a little easier. Step 5. Hot Glue LED's to panel. Im using the hot glue to seal the wiring from water. I have no idea if this will hold up in a down pour i guess time will tell. Step 6. Attach LED's to the factory rear turn signal wiring harness. I'm sure you can get these online if you don't want to cut the originals. Step 7 reinstall Panels into the bike and enjoy your new sleek turn signals. Well now I have to go and re do mine Lol. I did the same thing but I'm waiting for motodynamics sequential tail light to be back in stock. Slapped LED strips in the same spot as you and have the led relay. You've done a far better job than I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted May 3, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted May 3, 2015 @wickedtwister: How did you determine which resistors you needed? I'm looking at the same LEDs you used, but I plan on using the front signal as my power source. I was thinking use the 3x3 rows as you did with red LEDs and running those as running lights and another 2x3 rows of the amber as actual signals. Its these circuits I would need the resistors for. I also plan on ordering the CustomLED OEM flasher relay, not sure how this will affect things. Also, How're yours holding up? It's been a been a couple of weeks, any faults/hiccups? ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wickedtwister Posted May 3, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 @wickedtwister: How did you determine which resistors you needed? I'm looking at the same LEDs you used, but I plan on using the front signal as my power source. I was thinking use the 3x3 rows as you did with red LEDs and running those as running lights and another 2x3 rows of the amber as actual signals. Its these circuits I would need the resistors for. I also plan on ordering the CustomLED OEM flasher relay, not sure how this will affect things. Also, How're yours holding up? It's been a been a couple of weeks, any faults/hiccups?So far no issues. Ive had friends follow me during the day and they said they had no issues seeing the lights. If you did 2 rows of 3 led's it should be the same resistors. Here is the calculator i used to figure out what resistors to use. You will need the technical specs of the led's you wish to use. For the input voltage i used 12.6V.. Pay attention to the wattage it recommends. I doubled the recommended wattage of my resistors to minimize the heat they create, i guess it works in theory. If you are doing 3X3 of reds i dont think you will see the ambers unless you shut the reds off when they are flashing. One think you can play with is using a resistor that is "too big" and dimming the running lights. I would get a potentiometer (make sure you get the right resistance range) that way you can tune it until you have a brightness you like. Then simply measure the resistance with a Multimeter, and buy that resistance. That should give a similar effect as the integrated tail lights. I have actually been wanting to do the same thing with mine... I have enough materials to build another pair of light panels and also incorporate brake lights into these panels. This is much more in depth and will require some circuitry to get the brake and turn signals to work on the same bank of led's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted May 3, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted May 3, 2015 @wickedtwister: How did you determine which resistors you needed? I'm looking at the same LEDs you used, but I plan on using the front signal as my power source. I was thinking use the 3x3 rows as you did with red LEDs and running those as running lights and another 2x3 rows of the amber as actual signals. Its these circuits I would need the resistors for. I also plan on ordering the CustomLED OEM flasher relay, not sure how this will affect things. Also, How're yours holding up? It's been a been a couple of weeks, any faults/hiccups?So far no issues. Ive had friends follow me during the day and they said they had no issues seeing the lights. If you did 2 rows of 3 led's it should be the same resistors. Here is the calculator i used to figure out what resistors to use. You will need the technical specs of the led's you wish to use. For the input voltage i used 12.6V.. Pay attention to the wattage it recommends. I doubled the recommended wattage of my resistors to minimize the heat they create, i guess it works in theory. If you are doing 3X3 of reds i dont think you will see the ambers unless you shut the reds off when they are flashing. One think you can play with is using a resistor that is "too big" and dimming the running lights. I would get a potentiometer (make sure you get the right resistance range) that way you can tune it until you have a brightness you like. Then simply measure the resistance with a Multimeter, and buy that resistance. That should give a similar effect as the integrated tail lights. I have actually been wanting to do the same thing with mine... I have enough materials to build another pair of light panels and also incorporate brake lights into these panels. This is much more in depth and will require some circuitry to get the brake and turn signals to work on the same bank of led's.... As i mentioned Im taking the power off the front signals so i get the running light option. As far as im aware the runnning light operation cuts out when the signal is turned on to give the flash effect. Wouldnt using 12.6V for input voltage decrease the life of the LEDs? Running voltage would exceed this by nearly 2V unless I'm overlooking something, which I more than likely am. Its been a couple years since I've done any electrical work like this, and i dont have much experience with LEDs. As far as your resistors go, did you just use the one 82ohm resistor for the ground side of the whole circuit? ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wickedtwister Posted May 3, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm not sure if the running light cuts off when blinkers are on. I have not tried it. I used 12.6 because that is technically what a fully charged battery will output 6 cells @ 2.1V each. Im not sure what voltage the bike outputs at WOT but so far i haven't had any issues. To be safe you could go up one step up in resistance but your lights will not be as bright. But i did use the calc and figured out that everything from 12-13.1V used that same resistor. Typically when you overpower one they will blow right away. Your resistor question is why i brought up the Wattage of the resistor. I used 3, 2watt resistors per side. One for each bank of LED's, It is possible to use a larger wattage resistor and run all three together but the size difference of the resistor is why i did not do this. And i wanted to retain the flexibility to do a sequential light pattern later on if i got bored again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted May 3, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted May 3, 2015 Awesome, just gotta wait for those panels to come in. I think ive got the diagram setup correctly now ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photomoto Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Guys, keep this thread updated with everything you do! I would absolutely LOVE to do something like this, I just need a little more time to figure everything out. I'm keeping my eyes on this thread though! Thanks! 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verdecken Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 This is exactly what I've been wanting to do!! If you ever sell these, I am first on the list for a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted May 5, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted May 5, 2015 Sourcing the parts would be easy, as far as production thats the issue. I could try making a few others once i make sure my concept works in the real world ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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