rick Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Something I don't understand is how there's enough pull to disengage the clutch when the lever is adjusted close to the bar. Does it pull the same when it's adjusted in? Does the clutch cable get pulled the same distance even when the lever has less distance to go?Well, if the lever can be adjusted close enough to the bar, as the lever hitting the grip becomes the limit of throw, then it's very possible that the clutch pack will not open enough to allow clean shifts or worse yet, prevent drag at stop lights. Whether that happens or not, I can't answer. I have adjustable levers on my Aprilia. It's a hydraulic system (no cable to adjust) I swapped out the OE slave cylinder (bolted on the motor) with one that lessened lever pull. It does this by using a bigger diameter piston. That bigger volume robs some throw produced by the OE master up on the bar. To compensate, I had to adjust the lever further away from the grip to get shift quality back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassecou Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I have used those Chinese levers ($25) for a few thousand miles and LOVE them, and its probably the easiest install on the bike http://www.ebay.com/itm/171388260162?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D171388260162%26_rdc%3D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamobethere Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I was about to pull the trigger on a pair of CRG RC2's, but the price of the chinese levers got me second guessing. Anybody want to sway me one way or another? Is there anything on the market that is in between the two price/quality wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassecou Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 For $25 you have nothing to loose, your patience maybe, as it takes a good 2 to 3 weeks to get those levers to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rowdy Posted June 12, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 12, 2015 I paid $39 for my blue ano shorties on ebay (made in China). No complaints. Why can't left turners see us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Something I don't understand is how there's enough pull to disengage the clutch when the lever is adjusted close to the bar. Does it pull the same when it's adjusted in? Does the clutch cable get pulled the same distance even when the lever has less distance to go?The engagement zone is pretty far out, so usually adjusting it a few notches in can still make for a complete pass through the engagement zone into no drag. That said, much like Rick indicated you can adjust it too far in and end up hitting the grip before it's completely disengaged. Something else that came to mind, and mostly only affects the track guys, is that there is another benefit to adjustable levers I don't think I saw mentioned... Another reason they are beneficial on the track is because you can adjust for brake fade real time on the bike. Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan4130 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 My China levers were $25 and showed up in a week, same shipping speed as most online retailers in the U.S. '15 FZ-09 Cadmium Yellow '15 White Fz-07 - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Ordered the shorty eBay levers… look exactly like the ones on Mad Hornets (cheaper, non-folding version) site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamobethere Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thanks all, went with the eBay levers and saved a $100+ towards my exhaust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan4130 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 That's the ticket @yamobethere '15 FZ-09 Cadmium Yellow '15 White Fz-07 - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botbullet0 Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Ordered the shorty eBay levers… look exactly like the ones on Mad Hornets (cheaper, non-folding version) site.Ordered mine from Mad Hornets. Guess what country they came from. Must be the same ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted June 30, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 Bought Brake and Clutch "CRG RC2" levers. They were expensive but got great reviews, look cool, 3 anodized colors, and adjustable. Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rmdet Posted June 30, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 Ordered the shorty eBay levers… look exactly like the ones on Mad Hornets (cheaper, non-folding version) site.Ordered mine from Mad Hornets. Guess what country they came from. Must be the same ones!How are the Mad Hornet levers working out so far? I ordered a set a few days ago (Shorty style) - probably would have better to ask you before I ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botbullet0 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Ordered mine from Mad Hornets. Guess what country they came from. Must be the same ones!How are the Mad Hornet levers working out so far? I ordered a set a few days ago (Shorty style) - probably would have better to ask you before I ordered! Great. They feel awesome and my shifts have gotten much better. I can tell they aren't super high quality, but they're not crappy either. Definitely glad that I got them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted July 1, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 1, 2015 I got the clutch part of my order today for the CRG RC2's. Gonna wait for the brake one to show up before I do the install. Manipulating them in my hand I was a bit surprised and dissapointed that the adjustment from one end to the other seems to be about half of what I had expected, but it may seem different on the bike than freehand, and at any rate it probably has the click I need. Databyter Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzid1320 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I got the clutch part of my order today for the CRG RC2's. Gonna wait for the brake one to show up before I do the install. Manipulating them in my hand I was a bit surprised and dissapointed that the adjustment from one end to the other seems to be about half of what I had expected, but it may seem different on the bike than freehand, and at any rate it probably has the click I need. Databyter I'm sure you'll find the adjustment range is more than you need. In fact, most levers at the lowest setting are too close to the bar. When you squeeze the lever, you hit the handle before the clutch fully disengages. The brake lever doesn't need as much travel so you might like the lowest setting on that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rmdet Posted July 7, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 7, 2015 How are the Mad Hornet levers working out so far? I ordered a set a few days ago (Shorty style) - probably would have better to ask you before I ordered! Great. They feel awesome and my shifts have gotten much better. I can tell they aren't super high quality, but they're not crappy either. Definitely glad that I got them.Received mine today and put them on - looks great compared to the stock levers! Quick question - the bushing on the clutch... it came out of my OEM lever very easily, however I had to use a mallet to jam it into the Mad Hornets lever. If I ever want to change again, I am likely going to have to buy a new bushing, as I dont see myself being able to get that out again... was that the same experience for anybody else with the MH set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzid1320 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Bummer. Do you get any binding in the lever? I have FP Racing levers and they went in just as easily as they came out of the stock one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rmdet Posted July 8, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 8, 2015 Bummer. Do you get any binding in the lever? I have FP Racing levers and they went in just as easily as they came out of the stock one. It was binding at first and not fully returning to position when released, but then I loosened the nut about 1/8 of a turn and it seems to operate fine. However, it got me wondering if the bushing/barrel is suppose to (required to) move freely. Considering it was so easy to remove and was well lubricated in the OEM clutch lever, I started to question if the bushing may need to be tight in the bolt/nut connection and loose enough in the lever that the lever moves around the bushing. If that is the case, this may create a future problem, as the bushing is too tight and will not move at all. Help with this question would be greatly appreciated - is it a problem if the clutch lever bushing will not move (Collar, Lever 1, part 5JJ-83913-00-00)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzid1320 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 You'll be fine with the pivot bolt/nut being snug but not tight. If you were to try the stock lever again, you'd find that the nut could be tightened to the point that binding occurs even with the stock levers. As long as you have some play, that's fine and far better than even a little binding. The aftermarket lever should have similar amount of wobble around the bolt as the stock lever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rmdet Posted July 8, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 8, 2015 Bummer. Do you get any binding in the lever? I have FP Racing levers and they went in just as easily as they came out of the stock one. It was binding at first and not fully returning to position when released, but then I loosened the nut about 1/8 of a turn and it seems to operate fine. However, it got me wondering if the bushing/barrel is suppose to (required to) move freely. Considering it was so easy to remove and was well lubricated in the OEM clutch lever, I started to question if the bushing may need to be tight in the bolt/nut connection and loose enough in the lever that the lever moves around the bushing. If that is the case, this may create a future problem, as the bushing is too tight and will not move at all. Help with this question would be greatly appreciated - is it a problem if the clutch lever bushing will not move (Collar, Lever 1, part 5JJ-83913-00-00)? I removed the aftermarket clutch lever, carefully tapped out the collar/bushing and put it back in the OEM lever to compare. The collar fits perfectly in the OEM lever and rotates with no play or resistance - you can hold the collar and swing the lever back and forth and it is very smooth. I'm putting the OEMs back on until I can get more info on the importance of the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botbullet0 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Great. They feel awesome and my shifts have gotten much better. I can tell they aren't super high quality, but they're not crappy either. Definitely glad that I got them.Received mine today and put them on - looks great compared to the stock levers! Quick question - the bushing on the clutch... it came out of my OEM lever very easily, however I had to use a mallet to jam it into the Mad Hornets lever. If I ever want to change again, I am likely going to have to buy a new bushing, as I dont see myself being able to get that out again... was that the same experience for anybody else with the MH set?Nope, mine slid right in with no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naparider Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I bought the mad hornets levers, and have used them for a few weeks now. They feel great, and have good adjustability in and out. I run 3 on the clutch side and 1 on the brake. My one big complaint is that I got the length adjuatable ones, and I pictured them being shorties, and I wanted more like a 3 finger lever, so they could be adjusted out. Well, I have them as short as they go, and they are barely shorter than stock. If you are looking for shorty length levers, do not buy the adjustables. Quality is good, they installed fine, no binding or anything. If you are a color stickler, just a heads up, the blue levers don't really match the stock blue accents on the gray bike, so I wouldn't go with blue if thats important to you. 2015 FZ-07, Graphite Puig Touring windscreen, custom fit frame sliders, graves fender eliminator, evotech radiator guard, mad hornets adjustable levers, and coming soon, two brothers S1R and EJK RIP 01 DRZ-400 (crank failure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splytsecond Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 ordered the black ones from ebay the same as some of the others here, excited for them to (someday) make it to my house haha. Will post up reviews whenever they get here. for $24 its worth a shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Clenz Posted August 25, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted August 25, 2015 I received my Ebay shorty levers today, ordered them on the 13th, they shipped them the next day. So 11 day from ordering to my door. Brake lever went on without issue. Like others had mentioned the metal bushing was a snug fit on the aftermarket clutch lever. It was not tight enough that I needed tools to put it in place, but it was tighter than the OEM Clutch lever. Additionally, getting the clutch lever to line up was a little tight as well. Found it useful to use a screwdriver to line up the bolt hole on the clutch side. It may look like there is not a lot of adjustment with them off, but there is a lot more than the OEM break lever. I found on the clutch lever I can only use settings 6 to 4. 3 down feels like the clutch is not fully disengaged. 4 is actually a good adjustment for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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