Premium Member schalicke Posted February 28, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 28, 2015 I am very curious what other riders have their stock rear spring set at. Please, list the following information in regards to this. Weight: 145lb - 155lb with full gear Setting: 5th notch above the softest setting. (I go by the following 1 softest - 5 middle - 10 stiffest) Ride style: I feel I am fairly aggressive in the canyons but no track star. Extra: Every once in a while I will give my 75lb son a ride and I do not feel I need to change the suspension. I drive very calm with him on the back. I do not feel like my abilities are out performing the suspension yet. However, I am saving $ to upgrade it when my riding improves.I don’t really know what to feel for in suspension. I figure when I feel the bike not doing what I want or doing things I don’t want. I will know to change it. Too soft it will feel spongy & too stiff it will feel jarring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheraleo Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 208. Preload set at 7. I'm undecided on the suspension. I think its okay so far, but I haven't tested the FZ fully yet. I just got it a couple of weeks ago, and the weather has sucked. O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar, And I must pause...till it come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member crazycracka501 Posted March 1, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted March 1, 2015 155 fully geared. I have it set to 10 and does okay most of the time. My 100lb wife on the back really works the soft suspension. At this point I'm looking to switch out the oil in the front to help out. I want to start track days so I really need a better suspension....and sliders lol. Make it stop!....Now make it go faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtmn Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 155 and 100 for a passenger dude im more then that and then a passenger then we talk about soft suspension I would think a fz-07 would be right up your alley I think I drink way to muck beer for me to ever be 155 I really need to exercise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rowdy Posted March 1, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted March 1, 2015 I haven't actually looked close to verify, but I think the service guy said mine was on two when I bought it. I weigh 145, and it doesn't feel too bad (keep in mind, I'm still in break-in). What would you guys recommend for a setting? Why can't left turners see us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member crazycracka501 Posted March 1, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted March 1, 2015 155 and 100 for a passenger dude im more then that and then a passenger then we talk about soft suspension I would think a fz-07 would be right up your alley I think I drink way to muck beer for me to ever be 155 I really need to exercise lol, to be fair I ride the balls off of it to the best of my ability. We have some steep grades and mean twisties in several canyons and mountain roads around here, I find them and try to shred them....key word is try. Once you get moving with real speed through the turns (especially downhill), you can really feel the soft suspension mainly in the front. It feels like the front and rear suspension almost fight each other. I am not the most experienced rider in the world hence why I want to start track days and get some professional coaching while there. Make it stop!....Now make it go faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'm 250 with no gear and ride pretty hard. Coming from my r1 with racetech front Springs this thing is soft. Wish I was 150 lol. Need better suspension for sure. Running full stiff here for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberbandman72 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 I run mine on 7. I'm 5'10" @ 180lbs. Around 1.5" of static sag at the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted March 1, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted March 1, 2015 Mine is set at six. I am 205 without gear, so probably about 220 all kitted out. I was thinking of going up to eight but have not around to doing it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ralph Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 200 lb + gear on 7 feels about right but if it had damping adjustment I would be turning it up a bit. No problems with the front but get a better rear shock and likely would have. Not to self "Eat less pies and bacon butties" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 > Around 1.5" of static sag at the rear yikes, it that for real? Static sag for shock (measured from axle straight up to a convenient part of bodywork) should be 15-20mm. On forks it should be 30-35mm. Rider on-board should add 10mm in front and about 5-10 in rear. Good suspension is all about compliance and composure. There is precious little rebound damping at either end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheraleo Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 > Around 1.5" of static sag at the rear yikes, it that for real? Static sag for shock (measured from axle straight up to a convenient part of bodywork) should be 15-20mm. On forks it should be 30-35mm. Rider on-board should add 10mm in front and about 5-10 in rear. Good suspension is all about compliance and composure. There is precious little rebound damping at either end. Nice catch, I skimmed it and read that as 1.5 cm....has to be a typo...? O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar, And I must pause...till it come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewski Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 what is it normally set as stock? I have not touched mine yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanner68 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 The basic stock setting is three. I am 190 pounds. With clothes and gear and a tail bag, I am well north of 200lbs. I have moved the setting one click at a time at a very patient pace, with several hundred miles between changes, and am now at six. And it keeps improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ralph Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 The suspension like other bit's of the bike run in and mine is much better as far as smoothness goes at 2500 miles than when new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Shoot mines at 3 and I'm 160lbs. Thinking about playing with the settings, anybody know which is toward soft and stiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magsz18 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Soft would be 1. The stiffest would be 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundbear Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I'm 5'11", probably 180 lbs fully geared. Rode home from the dealer at 3 and set there for a while. Bumped it up to 5 when it felt a bit wallowy. I bumped it up again to 7 when I took my girlfriend out for the first time and forgot to set it back. I then realized I liked it better that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheraleo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Mines up to 8...I'm gonna try 9 this weekend. O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar, And I must pause...till it come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magsz18 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Dumb question but what are you guys looking to achieve by going to a higher setting? Im a new rider so i cant really feel the difference between say 1, and 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member rmdet Posted March 7, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted March 7, 2015 Dumber question - is there a general rule of thumb of recommended settings by weight ranges? If not, why? If it is just personal preference, that would make sense, but if I am following the comments correctly the setting = sag = stability/control variations. Would really like to have a better understanding on this if easily explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whitegas Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Alright, this might be in my head but I have it set at factory 3. I am less than 130lbs with all my gear on. I decided to try out 4 today. Normally I'm on the balls of my left foot, all weight, bike sort of tilted unless I prop my right ass upwards then I can flatfoot my left feet but still I feel the weight. So oddly today after I set it to 4, I noticed my feet barely had any weight on it. It was just there keeping the bike upright, but I was all twinkle toes. I don't know if it was the road or my imagination but that's what I noticed today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheraleo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Dumb question but what are you guys looking to achieve by going to a higher setting? Im a new rider so i cant really feel the difference between say 1, and 10. Firmer means more is needed to get the shock to react. It doesn't mean your spring can take more force before it bottoms out, just the force the spring has on it prior to its stroke will begin. So on 8, mine will transmit small bumps in the road to the bike and me (feeling a bit rougher). Even though it technically isn't doing any more damping cranking the preload from 3 to 8, it kind of is. Does this make sense? O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar, And I must pause...till it come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Like WhiteGas noticed, more preload translates into higher seat height too. Actually Pantheraleo, the amount of force to move the spring is the same no matter how much preload you have. It's a straight-rate spring. it's just that for the same input (aka bump) the higher preload means it recovers faster and also the shaft movement is less since the opposing force vector is higher so it nets out to less effective input. So if previously a bump of X resulted in 1/2" of shaft movement, a higher amount of preload could reduce that to 3/8" or even 1/4". The less stroke movement can help or hinder "feel" depending on how good or bad the piston valving is. And on bikes like this with no linkage it's typical to be over-sprung but more importantly over-damped. Which leads to a choppy ride and why people think adding more preload seems to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantheraleo Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Like WhiteGas noticed, more preload translates into higher seat height too. Actually Pantheraleo, the amount of force to move the spring is the same no matter how much preload you have. It's a straight-rate spring. it's just that for the same input (aka bump) the higher preload means it recovers faster and also the shaft movement is less since the opposing force vector is higher so it nets out to less effective input. So if previously a bump of X resulted in 1/2" of shaft movement, a higher amount of preload could reduce that to 3/8" or even 1/4". The less stroke movement can help or hinder "feel" depending on how good or bad the piston valving is. And on bikes like this with no linkage it's typical to be over-sprung but more importantly over-damped. Which leads to a choppy ride and why people think adding more preload seems to help. Yep, that's a better explanation. Thank you. O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reason. Bear with me. My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar, And I must pause...till it come back to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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