bellissimoto Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Hello everyone! Gilles released a shift holder support for the MT-07 / FZ-07! This item is SUPER POPULAR with certain Aprilia models. What does it do? You know the splined shaft that comes out of the transmission that the shift knuckle bolts to? Well, it comes out a fair amount before the knuckle bolts on to it, and since there is nothing to support that "voided" space, it can flex and cause mis-shifts. On certain Aprilia models, the mis-shifts are VERY frustrating. It's atrocious, and they NEED this shift support. On the MT-07 / FZ-07 it's not as bad, BUT, because a lot of people are using these bikes as race bikes with quickshifters, I can see it as an added for of protection. The bonus is this new design INCLUDES an all new fancy sprocket cover replacement! Check it out... (problem area circled in Red). Let me know what y'all think Sign up for a free online account and use coupon code TENERE15 for 15% off!!! https://www.bellissimoto.com/parts/engine/shift-holder-supports/gilles-shift-holder-support-kit-for-yamaha-yzf-r7-fz-07-mt-07-tracer-700-tenere-700-fj-07-and-xsr700 Kind Regards, - Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7fold Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Looks interesting, but I wonder how it'll fair on bikes used primarily for the street with the front sprocket nut being more exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElGonzales Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) I wonder how long the open bearing will survive without a seal. There are other makers that sell such a thing, but at least with a seal on the outside. They want to close the inner side too in the next revision of the product. I can't find my browser bookmark right now Ah: Racetorx Yamaha MT07 / T7 Tenere / R7 / Tracer700 Gear Shift Support But I appreciate every possible improvement of our bikes and I am curious to hear reports from the real world testers. Edited March 23, 2023 by ElGonzales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted March 23, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 23, 2023 I'll give it a try. Order placed. Ed 1 "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyribs Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Would rather see a bushing vs a bearing, but a squirt of chain lube in there while servicing the chain should be more than enough to keep it happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellissimoto Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 7fold said: Looks interesting, but I wonder how it'll fair on bikes used primarily for the street with the front sprocket nut being more exposed. Doubt it'll be an issue. Most race bikes don't even have a cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cornerslider Posted March 24, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Evill_Ed said: I'll give it a try. Order placed. Ed I just added a Bazzaz QS-2 "stand alone" quick shifter to my race FZ-07 over the winter... I've never had a quick shifter before. I'm assuming you have one on your bike as well. Do they "mis-shifts" on track??? I bought it from another member on this site. I may order one up as well just as a precautionary measure- ""W.O.T. until you see god, then brake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted March 24, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 24, 2023 10 hours ago, cornerslider said: I just added a Bazzaz QS-2 "stand alone" quick shifter to my race FZ-07 over the winter... I've never had a quick shifter before. I'm assuming you have one on your bike as well. Do they "mis-shifts" on track??? I bought it from another member on this site. I may order one up as well just as a precautionary measure- I don’t believe a quick shifter would necessarily cause miss shifts. the only issue that I have had with and without the quick shifter is my transmission popping out of 5th gear back to 4th under load. This is common on the FZ07. The best fix is to have the gears undercut and shimmed, but that requires splitting the cases. I just installed the Factory Racing shift arm with ceramic bearing and stiffer spring. That seems to provide sharper shifter feel, more like a snap into the next gear. I haven’t tried it at wide open throttle yet so I can’t confirm if it’s better or not. I figure adding a support to the end of the shift rod and reducing any flex could also help improve shifter action. We’ll see. Ed 1 "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellissimoto Posted March 24, 2023 Author Share Posted March 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Evill_Ed said: I don’t believe a quick shifter would necessarily cause miss shifts. the only issue that I have had with and without the quick shifter is my transmission popping out of 5th gear back to 4th under load. This is common on the FZ07. The best fix is to have the gears undercut and shimmed, but that requires splitting the cases. I just installed the Factory Racing shift arm with ceramic bearing and stiffer spring. That seems to provide sharper shifter feel, more like a snap into the next gear. I haven’t tried it at wide open throttle yet so I can’t confirm if it’s better or not. I figure adding a support to the end of the shift rod and reducing any flex could also help improve shifter action. We’ll see. Ed I had the Factory Racing Shift Arm w/ Ceramic bearing and it was in fact better and more crisp. The Shift holder support would be the next step before splitting the cases and working the transmission. Let us know what you think when you install it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cornerslider Posted March 26, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 11:42 AM, bellissimoto said: I had the Factory Racing Shift Arm w/ Ceramic bearing and it was in fact better and more crisp. The Shift holder support would be the next step before splitting the cases and working the transmission. Let us know what you think when you install it. I just ordered as well. I will post my thoughts when it arrives- 2 ""W.O.T. until you see god, then brake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted March 28, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 28, 2023 Looking forward to seeing how this goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cornerslider Posted April 15, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted April 15, 2023 I received my product yesterday. It seems very well built. My motor is getting old(er). If this saves me from having to split cases once 5th gear starts falling-out, It was the best money I've spent. I took it on a "less than legal" ride around my neighborhood. At such low speeds, it was hard to tell if I gained anything- I can say I didn't lose anything. I'll know more in a couple weeks. My first race weekend is May 5th... 2 ""W.O.T. until you see god, then brake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7fold Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I'm definitely interested to see some updates or if anyone has any experience with the Racetorx solution as a comparison. One thing I've noticed with the Racetorx solution is the need for cleaning/re-greasing every 3000 miles - was there anything like that mentioned with Gilles or are they using a different type of bearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetscience Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 The Gilles uses needle bearings. No service timeline mentioned. I installed the shift holder support yesterday, packing it with lithium grease to keep debris and corrosion out. Testing pending for road bike. Honestly though, I think the biggest changes in improving shifting was installing Gilles rearsets, and synthetic engine oil. I'll be adding the Factory Pro shift kit later on when the clutch plates are due for replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etorty Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 At a closer look it seems that both products uses needle bearings: It seems that the Racetorx have a sort of seal, on the outer side. If the Racetorx need to be "serviced" every 3000 miles, I think the same will be for the Gilles (more or less...). I agree absolutely with @sweetscience regarding the Gilles rearsets and the synthetic engine oil. I've added the Gilles rear sets some years ago, and the shifting was definitely better than before. And when I started to use synthetic oil (I use Silkolene Pro4 10W40 since the end of the warranty period), the shifting is smooth even after many more km than the Yamalube that was in my engine before. Anyway... I'm really tempted to try the Racetorx... www.MT-Series.it Yamaha Official MT-Series Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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