R7 Slipper Clutch

[Evill_Ed]

On 2/16/2022 at 5:39 PM, M. Hausknecht said:

Excellent! I'm still awaiting parts ordered over two weeks ago. Apparently, clutch fibers and plates are not presently available in the U.S.

I ordered the clutch kit, this kit includes all friction plates and also  includes alternate clutch plates that may be required to achieve the correct assembled clutch pack width. It also includes the clutch  cover gasket. 

Ed

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, Shyan said:

Already install it?  Please do update once everything is install   Cant wait to see the end result and I will probably do that same mod as well..

Yes, it is installed, pretty straight forward. I took a lot of pictures and will be posting a detailed write up sometime this week. 

I have not had a chance to ride it yet, So far the initial observations are lighter clutch pull at the lever and it seems to go into gear from neutral with much less (almost no) clunk like the stock clutch.

Ed

[Shyan]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

Yes, it is installed, pretty straight forward. I took a lot of pictures and will be posting a detailed write up sometime this week. 

I have not had a chance to ride it yet, So far the initial observations are lighter clutch pull at the lever and it seems to go into gear from neutral with much less (almost no) clunk like the stock clutch.

Ed

Ok great thanks! Where do you get those part? Hopefully I can get it in my country as well

Btw, yours is V1 or V2 or latest model?

Edited February 22, 2022 by Shyan

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, Shyan said:

Ok great thanks! Where do you get those part? Hopefully I can get it in my country as well

Btw, yours is V1 or V2 or latest model?

I purchased from 

Motorcycle Parts, Tires, Accessories and Riding Gear | MotoSport

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 I have a parts list in the beginning of the thread?

I'm not sure what you mean by V1 or V2? For the R7 parts it only lists 2022 model.

Ed  

[Shyan]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

I purchased from 

Motorcycle Parts, Tires, Accessories and Riding Gear | MotoSport

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Shop MotoSport.com for all of the best deals, customer service and selection in aftermarket and OEM motorcycle parts, riding gear...

 I have a parts list in the beginning of the thread?

I'm not sure what you mean by V1 or V2? For the R7 parts it only lists 2022 model.

Ed  

Oh.. I mean your MT07 version? V1 is from 2014-2017, V2 is 2018-2020, V3 is 2021- current.

Ok, noted on the part

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, Shyan said:

Oh.. I mean your MT07 version? V1 is from 2014-2017, V2 is 2018-2020, V3 is 2021- current.

Ok, noted on the part

Mine is an FZ-07 2016 V1. 

These parts cross reference across the model line, V1 and V2

[M. Hausknecht]

The motor, called a a CP 2 by Yamaha, hasn't changed since its introduction. Hard engine parts are interchangeable across all model years of the FZ/MT 07 and the new R7.

Ed, I ordered from Motosport as well. They've pissed me off less than a bunch of other options for OEM parts, and since I order enough (minimum of $79 for me) each time, free shipping.

[Shyan]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

Mine is an FZ-07 2016 V1. 

These parts cross reference across the model line, V1 and V2

Ok thanks  Can't wait to start ordering mine!

[Moco]

Can anyone print out the part numbers?

The picture on the first page is really blurry for me.

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, Moco said:

Can anyone print out the part numbers?

The picture on the first page is really blurry for me.

I’ll repost them. 

[Moco]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

I’ll repost them. 

Right on man. Thank you for this thread. I have been wondering if the R7 slipper would fit since it was released.

[M. Hausknecht]

Yesterday I laid out the parts to convert a stock 07 clutch to an R7 slipper clutch. All I'm missing is a new clutch pack (fibers and plates), which is now back-ordered until at least March 18. The parts schematic seems clear enough that assembly should be straight-forward. The only info I'm missing is the torque to put on the three spring bolts; Ed did you find an R7 torque figure or just use the torque from the stock clutch (spring bolts appear to be the same so I'd use the same torque absent other info).  Only three springs; no wonder the clutch action is so light.

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, M. Hausknecht said:

Yesterday I laid out the parts to convert a stock 07 clutch to an R7 slipper clutch. All I'm missing is a new clutch pack (fibers and plates), which is now back-ordered until at least March 18. The parts schematic seems clear enough that assembly should be straight-forward. The only info I'm missing is the torque to put on the three spring bolts; Ed did you find an R7 torque figure or just use the torque from the stock clutch (spring bolts appear to be the same so I'd use the same torque absent other info).  Only three springs; no wonder the clutch action is so light.

I got the torque from the R7 Service manual. Clutch Boss Nut is 70-ft.lbs, the Clutch Spring Bolts are 7.4-ft.lbs.

Ed

[M. Hausknecht]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

I got the torque from the R7 Service manual. Clutch Boss Nut is 70-ft.lbs, the Clutch Spring Bolts are 7.4-ft.lbs.

Ed

Thanks! Boss nut is the same part, so same torque. Interesting, however, that spring bolts are 7.4 rather than the 07's 5.9; the bolts appear to be identical.

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, M. Hausknecht said:

Thanks! Boss nut is the same part, so same torque. Interesting, however, that spring bolts are 7.4 rather than the 07's 5.9; the bolts appear to be identical.

[Evill_Ed]

13 hours ago, Moco said:

Right on man. Thank you for this thread. I have been wondering if the R7 slipper would fit since it was released.

Here you go

[Moco]

Just now, Evill_Ed said:

Here you go

Legend. Thank so much!

[fzar]

13 hours ago, Evill_Ed said:

I got the torque from the R7 Service manual.

The question is..................?  

[M. Hausknecht]

Just now, fzar said:

The question is..................?  

What is the torque setting for the three clutch spring bolts, was the question. In other words, snug but use a small wrench if not using a torque wrench.

[Evill_Ed]

Here are my pictures and notes for the installation of the R7 Slipper Clutch.

PART ONE - REMOVAL

Drain the oil and coolant.

Then remove the water pump. I tied mine to the header pipes with a small bungee to keep it out of my way.

Notes: Be careful with the pump o-ring. Mine was securely in place so I just left it alone. Also my coolant has only 3K miles, so I drained it into a clean container to reuse it. 

Remove the Clutch Cover

Note that the last friction plate is offset one notch from the rest of the stack. The R7 Slipper will also have the last friction plate offset like this. 

Pressure Plate, springs and clutch plates removed. 

lift the locking dimple on the nut for the clutch boss.

 

Remove the boss nut, I used an impact gun. Otherwise you need a clutch holding tool, or place the trans in 6th gear and hold down on the rear brake to loosen the nut. 

Remove beveled washer, note the side that has OUT stamped on it, faces you.

Remove second washer and then the clutch boss.

Make sure to remove the spacer from the rear of the clutch boss, it will most likely stick to the back of the clutch boss when removed. 

Ed

 

[Evill_Ed]

Here are my pictures and notes for the installation of the R7 Slipper Clutch.

PART TWO - Installation

Stock FZ / MT Clutch Boss and Pressure plate on Top  /  R7 Slipper on Bottom

Note Ramps and oval shaped holes on Boss and Plate, this is how they disengage to provide slip 

Install rear spacer first, then R7 Clutch Boss and front spacer

Then Beveled Washer with the word OUT facing you and a new Boss Nut. Torque Boss Nut to 70-ft.lbs and stake the lock tab.

Place the transmission in 6th gear and hold the rear brake to torque the Boss Nut.

Install Clutch Damper Spring Seat

 

Then install the Clutch Damper Spring. Note the bevel faces outward. 

Then begin installing the friction and clutch plates in order. Assemble dry and then measure the stack height. Range is 32.7 mm to 33.5 mm. My first assembly came out towards the lower end. I realized that I used 2 of the thinner clutch plates. (see chart below) The clutch kit come with 5 standard plates 2.0mm, (2) thinner plates 1.6mm and (2) heavier plates 2.3mm. 

 

I reassembled with 5 standard 2.0mm plate and was at 33.5mm exactly. I then oiled the friction and clutch plates and installed with the R7 pressure plate.

Torque Clutch Spring Bolts to 7.4-ft.lbs.

Note offset on last friction plate.

Clean the mating surfaces and put a new gasket on the clutch cover and reinstall. I found it lined up easy, slide the cover down and wiggle the water pump impeller to make sure it lock onto the drive shaft. Don't sweat the clutch arm alignment if it is off. Mine was slightly off, I just removed the C Clip and rotated the arm a few degrees until the marks lined up and reinstalled the C Clip.

Torque clutch cover bolts to 8.9-ft.lbs

Refill coolant. Install a new oil filter and oil.

Install the clutch cable on the cover, adjust and tighten lock nuts. Then fine adjust at clutch lever to achieve 10mm free play. 

I think that's pretty much it. Feel free to ask any questions. 

Ed

 

[Shyan]

 

On 2/24/2022 at 4:24 PM, Evill_Ed said:

Here you go

The 90179-20007-00 can be skip right? As I check MT07 and R7 uses the same number..?
Out of topic..do you have any link where I can get the R7 service manual..? Thanks!

Edited February 25, 2022 by Shyan

[Evill_Ed]

Just now, Shyan said:

 

The 90179-20007-00 can be skip right? As I check MT07 and R7 uses the same number..?
Out of topic..do you have any link where I can get the R7 service manual..? Thanks!

That is the Clutch Boss Nut, it is staked after installation to lock it in place. Best practice is to use a new one. 

I forget where I purchased the service manual, but you can get it from here 

YAMAHA MANUAL STORE

 

Ed

[Einstein57]

I was looking up the part numbers and I just wanted to clarify something before I enter my order. 
 

you show plate clutch 2  (5VY-16325-00-00 ) which appears to be an individual plate. 
 

Shouldn’t it be the friction plate kit BEB-W001M-00-00 with the full set of plates?

[jb.junior]

On 2/25/2022 at 6:16 PM, Evill_Ed said:

That is the Clutch Boss Nut, it is staked after installation to lock it in place. Best practice is to use a new one. 

I forget where I purchased the service manual, but you can get it from here 

YAMAHA MANUAL STORE

 

Ed

Thanks for this. Have you ever had a slipper clutch of any kind in one of these engines? Curious to see how R7 version performs compared to an aftermarket.