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sorkyah
25 minutes ago, cosp600rr said:

How did you get a subframe so fast? I cant even get a reply to a message I sent almost 2 weeks ago and have decided to go a different route.

its quite possible he had a spare as this is his second build and he races his primarily. 
also, @Spatt is a hobbyist in terms of time. he has a full time job to support his venturing into the machining/engineering of go fast bits. 


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mossrider
1 hour ago, sorkyah said:

its quite possible he had a spare as this is his second build and he races his primarily. 
also, @Spatt is a hobbyist in terms of time. he has a full time job to support his venturing into the machining/engineering of go fast bits. 

Some stuff I accumulate in my travels, some trackside, some through different connections, some horse trading, some from commerical vendors, and of course some via magic. Its a culmination of thousands of miles of travel and hundreds of hours of time spent. 

This subframe is from AP Motoarts but I got this one through a friend of Andy's, the previous one from Andy personally. These guys are always busy and do not respond to me all the time either so I have to be creative and persistent, it's the nature of the business. 

I don't have any secret methods or phone #'s. 

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Today I got the swingarm and frame cleaned of grease and smeg so I could see what's what.  Then we got after trimming the airbox and battery tray down to fit track spec.

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I use a high speed (54,000rpm) air dremmel from Silver Eagle. I used to use this thing to tear up brand new side by side dashboards to install heater kits and accessories at the dealership so I have a fair amount of practice. Still no good at it, lol.

I got the sub frame mounted too. Every one of these damned things I've messed with is just a little bit different making things kind of a pain.

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Here's the electrical rough fit into the smaller space afforded by the aluminum sub frame.

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Now I'll move to the headstock area and get after the electronics, steering, tripples and controls.

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Dropped in the Yoyo and put in new clutch plates while I was in there.IMG_20200229_175356.thumb.jpg.c01ef0e3957a54b98611be7691950b9c.jpg

Missus is making me put away my tools and get cleaned up to go to a 'function'. I'll have to button er up tomorrow. Sigh...

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pgeldz

You are off to a great start!

 

If you need any help with that build sheet, let me know.  I know of a shop that has some *good* hookups :)

 

- Paul

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mossrider

Well, we have some time as we wait for outside vendors for a bit. So since I have a couple extra days off this week I thought I'd putz around in the shop, watch the Minnesota State highschool hockey tournament and get some work done. 

Kind of a pain but had to cut the intake runners outta the airbox, they're gunked in there pretty tight.  Once out I can modify them to allow the airbox/throttle bodies to be removed lickety split. All the magic takes place on the inside end,

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Put the toe guard and Gilies adjuster/spools on the reworked swingarm too,

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sorkyah

reworked swingarm?

 


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Just now, sorkyah said:

reworked swingarm?

 

Colloquially speaking.  Removing extraneous tabs, mounts and guards. Upgrading chain adjusters with spools and adding springs on the adjustment bolts to hold them in position. Refreshing bearings and seals. Beveling, throating or smoothing certain places to facilitate wheel changes and paddock use. Some paint touch up. 

Sorry. It sounded cool & mysterious. 😎

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sorkyah

wait, springs on the adjustment bolts? 

and what any specifics on the bevels/throats/smoothing added?


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Just now, sorkyah said:

wait, springs on the adjustment bolts? 

and what any specifics on the bevels/throats/smoothing added?

I'm not giving out all my secrets. Waitaminute, I guess I mostly already have. 

Here's the biggest one that cost me a fortune in time and cash on the dyno to figure out. 

Remove the intake runners from the airbox. Cut out the sections as pictured with an xacto knife. Glue them back together, Super Glue works wonderfully and has held up for 3 years of in and out on my bike. Reinstall the runners into the airbox. Leave the cover off the box and the filter out. Shazam, let's it rev another 2000rpm, breath deeper with cams and porting, makes a minimum of 3 more hp and 4ft/lbs more torque throughout the rev range than same bike with unmodified airbox. IMG_20200307_180946.thumb.jpg.ff6a36c9e2fa9ae881415b02c6b91069.jpg

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Warning: the gains observed from this modification are directly proportional to the amount of engine work done to the bike. On a stock(ish) bike this will hurt your midrange power and throttle response. Don't do it without porting, headwork, bored throttle bodies, cams or some combination of the above. It also moves the power band up the rev range.

The spring goes over the adjuster bolt and is captive between the head and the cap of the adjuster. When you pull the rear wheel the head stays in position so you're not fumble f**king around trying to get the axle back in by yourself in the rain in 2 minutes, you get the idea.  (Obviously works better on stock adjusters but still keeps these from wiggling when I slam the axle home)IMG_20200307_184025.thumb.jpg.dc7e2ef80885c1aeb6ba995c88721202.jpg

Here's a pic of a stock adjuster drilled and wired to be captive. It has the same spring over the bolt to keep the head stationary during wheel swaps.

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Bevelling and crap is done wherever you need a little sumpin sumpin to speed or smooth up routine tasks. Like chamfering brake pad edges, tapering axle holes, removing threads, bevelling axle ends, etc.

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sorkyah

i will def need to do the spring trick with the axel blocks. 
i have issues with the circlip coming off the inside of the adjuster though.


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Just now, sorkyah said:

i will def need to do the spring trick with the axel blocks. 
i have issues with the circlip coming off the inside of the adjuster though.

What I like is the spring keeps tension on the adjuster nut so I can use my ratcheting wrench to adjust chain tension, it's way faster and more secure since I don't have to fiddle around. It might seem frivolous but when you're trying to make a gearing change (pull wheel, swap cush drives, reinstall wheel, adjust chain in 3 minutes, try it) at pit wall during a 20 minute track session time is precious.

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mossrider

Here's the finished airbox,

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All stock connections and drains are kept, used or blocked off as per rule book dejure. Makes good power throughout the rpm range, good peak power, retains excellent throttle response, allows the motor to rev higher. 

Win.

The sanding and fitting dust will get cleaned up...

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Kind of a funny feeling. Normally I have some time and some projects and I putz away and suddenly I'm done and there's sometimes time left, sometimes not. No thought wasted.

Today, with the current state of affairs, I have nothing but a seemingly eternal amount of time and too little projects to fill it. Yet there is an odd feeling of impatience.

Anyway, I pressed the bearings out of the old linkages and into the new ones. 

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The pic above even has a foreboding surrealism about it.

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Ready, set, go...

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Also pulled the headstock apart and prepped the new aluminum set for install.

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Taking the lower race off the steel stem to move onto new aluminum stem w/o dingin it, grrr.

Good luck and be safe all. 

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mossrider

Drooling on all this stuff going on not my bike 🙁

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What gives?

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twf
On 3/21/2020 at 2:59 PM, mossrider said:

 

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Taking the lower race off the steel stem to move onto new aluminum stem w/o dingin it, grrr.

 

Easy, just press stem out :)

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Just now, twf said:

Easy, just press stem out :)

I did, nothing to it....

Then I promptly dropped it on the floor and dinged up the race so I now have a new race on the way. Sigh.

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Throttle bodies and suspension stuff should be here in a couple of days then look out. Maybe next weekend we'll have a roller? Gonna be a while to finish tho as my cams are locked up in Web Cams in SoCal while they're closed for this Covid19 bidness. Sigh.

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TB's came in and these showed up,

Custom valved K Tech DDS lite shock and 20IDS cartridges in re-built stock forks to stay with the budget(ish) build,

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This is gonna be bad ass fast n fun

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pgeldz

Dang!  Nice progress!

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Ain't much going on but,

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Forks and tripples

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Controls, bars and fender, wheel and brakes if happy hour doesn't interfere...

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Calipers gotta wait...

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6 hours ago, mossrider said:

Controls, bars and fender, wheel and brakes if happy hour doesn't interfere...

Happy hour only helps to inspire.  LOL.


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mossrider

Well I'm kinda getting tired of waiting for various states to reopen their crap so I can get my parts to finish this motor build and put it in here.

SO, I got a few things outta the way so I can put my spare motor in it for it's maiden flight in a couple of days. Swinger, suspension linkages, rearsets, wiring, ECU, PC5, maybe even fit up the glass...

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Take that lock down 😷. I'll hafta swap motors again but I need the practice anyway.

Wife comes in the shop and says, "Oh no, it's all bent and crooked!". Wouldn't believe me untill I put a rod through the axle blocks that's it normal, haha. 

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Certain states are worse, some are opening now to a certain degree.  Some companies found ways to stay open and some not so much.  So far I have been lucky.  Sorry you are missing parts.  I can understand the frustration.   Its turning out China really screwed us and the whole world....   

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Spatt
On 2/26/2020 at 9:03 AM, sorkyah said:

its quite possible he had a spare as this is his second build and he races his primarily. 
also, @Spatt is a hobbyist in terms of time. he has a full time job to support his venturing into the machining/engineering of go fast bits. 

I have them on the website now also.  They arent cheap but I think they look killer and work really well.  I'm stocking 1 piece at a time to help with lead time.  Right now I am out of the steel pieces but should have them made and stocking them next week.

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FZ-07 / MT-07 Aluminum removable subframe. This part does require cutting and welding to the original frame. Referrences...

 

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2 hours ago, mossrider said:

Well I'm kinda getting tired of waiting for various states to reopen their crap so I can get my parts to finish this motor build and put it in here.

SO, I got a few things outta the way so I can put my spare motor in it for it's maiden flight in a couple of days. Swinger, suspension linkages, rearsets, wiring, ECU, PC5, maybe even fit up the glass...

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Take that lock down 😷. I'll hafta swap motors again but I need the practice anyway.

Wife comes in the shop and says, "Oh no, it's all bent and crooked!". Wouldn't believe me untill I put a rod through the axle blocks that's it normal, haha. 

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Let me know what you're missing I've got enough spare motor parts I probably have what youre missing.  Like I was telling Copulous tonight I need to assemble the 4th motor just for the simple fact, I think I'm just short a set of rods in parts for another spare superbike motor for the trailer as a spare.

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