Mad Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Hi ! This is a summary of my experience making a custom part I started knowing how to make carbon fiber components but with no knowledge about 3D printing, cnc milling and Cad programs and I used as excuse the need for a passenger peg delete , to Learn as much as possible. I started with this , a piece of cardboard I crate a flat piece of carbon fiber with the right fiber orientation ( the orientation of the fibers is critical in composite materials) and than I cutted this piece out . well performing and fairly good looking but was a flat pieces , I wasn’t truly convinced ... I took it as an excuse to learn how to use a cad program , I started with fusion 360 , free ( for hobbyists) and packed with A LOT of useful tools ! this is the copy of the carbon fiber bracket I started learning the design and simulation environments I designed a piece easy to machine and 3D print It was a simple design but it was heavy and weak compared to the carbon fiber one ( 18 grams of aluminum, not much but a little too flexible, and I was sure there was a better way ) So I started experimenting with topology optimization , here the first ( good) try I even 3D printed it and it was grate and quite sturdy when mounted but too flimsy if not mounted and too easy to brake when tightening the bolts . back to the start.. I really learned how to use the topology optimization and I finally created a decent design based on the results some minor tweaks Looks good to me less than 12 grams ( aluminum ) And very rigid , but I tested the 3D printed design and I wasn’t satisfied with the lateral stiffness.... that means ..... simulations, design, and other simulations Looking similar ? Yes , but totally different at the same time ! 16 grams , really really stiff The orientation and size of every “beams “ is studied The horizontal beams are very optimized in dimensions and so are the ones connecting them ecc I took that design a little too far ( a way to say” can hold at least a 5kg disk with no problem” and.. “ I have really spent a lot of time on this... “ ) But now is time for some real world testing 3d printed in PetG ( more or less the plastic from water bottles ) to be honest that is enough for anyone , that plastic not the most rigid but very well suited for impacts and outside use , good thermal resistance.. I tested it for months and it was good , really good! I spent hours and hours on this project, yes it was a way to learn computer aided design .. but soo much effort was used for this ... sooooo cnc milled from aluminum ! THE END P.S. was it necessary? No , but now I’m able to make bigger projects ( a cnc milled top case support for my father’s tenere 700 may be coming) Was a fun experience , I probably made the best passenger peg removal bracket in the world and I learned how to use fusion 360 and how to 3d print ! P.P.S. All the designs were more than enough, even when 3d printed but when I was designing I felt like a aerospace engineer and took it wayyyy too far Edited November 18, 2019 by Mad 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 This is cool. There is no such thing as wasted time if you're having fun and learning. Especially when it results in something. I've sat staring into space for so long trying to visualize a projects quantum ramifactorysubvectordeflection angles that as the planet rotated I met myself. Time well spent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, mossrider said: I've sat staring into space for so long that as the planet rotated I met myself. That is poetic, (not even joking , I will reuse this with my gf ) there is something therapeutic about spending time creating a thing and even more if you go out of your way to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo10 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 That was time well spent. A friend 3D printed a soap dish for me, but I really want a full rear mudguard - one of those unique designs like your bracket (in my case, that no-one else wants!) 1 Just do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member pgeldz Posted November 18, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted November 18, 2019 That's awesome! I get a lot of crap from my buddies about the FZ-07 I'm building. They're like, "Why don't you just go by parts everyone else has and be done with it?" Cause I'm not like everyone else, and from your post, you aren't either. Feels good to be different yeah? Great job man! - Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, robbo10 said: That was time well spent. A friend 3D printed a soap dish for me, but I really want a full rear mudguard - one of those unique designs like your bracket (in my case, that no-one else wants!) Thank you! Try to make one ! Fiberglass is cheap and strong , you may be surprised of what you can do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, pgeldz said: That's awesome! I get a lot of crap from my buddies about the FZ-07 I'm building. They're like, "Why don't you just go by parts everyone else has and be done with it?" Cause I'm not like everyone else, and from your post, you aren't either. Feels good to be different yeah? Great job man! - Paul You are taking it to the next level ! I was just lucky that ordering more that one pieces the cost per unit dropped enough to make sense and even happier that I was able to share the project with some friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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