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So here's the start (end) of my 2020 season,

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New well, pump, pressure tanks, water heater, plumbing, heating and filtration system.

Sigh.

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sorkyah

Whatd you break the old ones for?


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mossrider

Iron bacteria infestation, ruined everything. Washer, dishwasher, faucets, plumbing, everything.. $$$

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scat2me

What about the henweigh ?

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1tondriver
4 minutes ago, mossrider said:

Iron bacteria infestation, ruined everything. Washer, dishwasher, faucets, plumbing, everything.. $$$

Wow that’s terrible. We only use well for watering outside sprinklers and such. City for everything else. 

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mossrider

Anaerobic Iron eating bacteria I'm told. Similar to an algae bloom I guess. We shocked existing well twice, chem treated it, tried to kill it with chlorine, back flushed it, then pulled the well and replaced all well mechanicals, pump, screens etc. Plugs filters every couple days now. Somehow it's out of control and can't be stopped. Every professional we've had look at it says 'Holy Fk!' never seen anything like it. 

We live in the country so no gas/water/sewer. Can't wait to find out if the septic system is effed too. 

Meh. I would have just raced/drank away my $ anyway. 

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blackout

Wow, that sucks! 

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Craig Mapstone
Upstate New York

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sorkyah

That's shitty dude

Good luck


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twf

Drilling new hole or can just pipes be replaced?

I hope my does not go bad, it is 300' deep.

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mossrider
Just now, twf said:

Drilling new hole or can just pipes be replaced?

I hope my does not go bad, it is 300' deep.

We have to seal (concrete) and cap the old well and do a completely new well to prevent cross contamination and protect neighbors well and prevent further groundwater contamination.  No part of old well may be tampered with or reused. 

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blackout
5 minutes ago, mossrider said:

We have to seal (concrete) and cap the old well and do a completely new well to prevent cross contamination and protect neighbors well and prevent further groundwater contamination.  No part of old well may be tampered with or reused. 

This sounds worse than the BP drill leak in the Gulf!  And sounds more expensive than my divorce!  Shitty luck.  


Craig Mapstone
Upstate New York

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mossrider
Just now, blackout said:

This sounds worse than the BP drill leak in the Gulf!  And sounds more expensive than my divorce!  Shitty luck.  

Be just my luck to ruin the neighbors well and get sued for a mill or get a billion dollar fine from the state for environmental damage, lol.

Feel pretty good so far, only up to about $10,000 but haven't touched anything inside the house yet...

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1tondriver

Well I admire your attitude if it’s any consolation. Like you said it could be worse I guess. Good luck with getting it all taken care of!

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sorkyah

So, you guys w/o water until the new one is dug and the house re-piped?


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mossrider
Just now, sorkyah said:

So, you guys w/o water until the new one is dug and the house re-piped?

No, we were still using the old well for laundry and showers in hard orange water. We used bottled water for cooking while we blew out and/or replaced plumbing and fixtures. We're just about completely squared away now. Wife didn't like the appliances anyway so those were going either way. Water softener was a Culligan and we never liked it since new. Thats been replaced with a state of the art high efficiency Morton softener. Water heater and boiler were new when we built the house 20 years ago so slated for replacement at some point too. Pressure tanks and water lines are included as part of our deal with the well diggers. Getting outdoor frost hydrants outta the deal too so we'll have running water outside now year around. So we're coming out of this ok except that my wife is showering in her trip to Hawaii, lol.

On those lines I decided to conceal the teardown in the flurry of activity,

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The motor we ran this year checks ok so its probably going to get rotated out of service. Head is coming off the spare motor we ran last year for a refresh and porting. It already has cams installed. When complete it goes in the bike. I'll have 2 identical motors then. 

Shhh.

Edit: obviously my plans for Carrillo rods, pollished tranny upgrades and blah blah had to be throttled back but we got this.

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fzar

Damn it that stinks. If it's any consolation, at least you caught it when you did, it could have been a lot worse. 

Good Luck with getting it right.

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bugsinteeth

I'da sold it and moved to .... wherever...  LOL

 

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mossrider

Getting this thread back around to cool byke schlit here's the motor I ran in 2018 coming apart. This is a stock motor with Webb cams. It was an eBay motor out of a wreck with 900ish miles on it before I put in cams and ran it 1 full season. It still looks really good. It's going to Zoran @ TWF for a valve job and porting.  Once done it'll be identical to the motor we ran this year.

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The motor above replaced the one below. This one died an honorable death on the sighting lap at Road America.😣

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Time for some backup Giddyup.

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Had a couple days off which is always dangerous. Started thinking about splitting the stock 3 piece head gasket and messing with the squish and compression ratio. Since I put together the previous motor with reliability in mind I didn't mess with it any more than necessary and used a stock head gasket when I reassembled it. I tend to be my own worst enemy some times. 

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The pic above is the stock head gasket I pulled out. Bellow I've pulled it apart trying to talk some sense into myself.

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Might be a cheaper way for me to get a couple of horse power w/o going with high compression pistons and rods and such. Hmm?

Here's a cool link to some cool online calculators for all you mental masterbaiters out there. You know who you are...

Let's go folks, who's with me?

 

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norcal616
17 minutes ago, mossrider said:

Had a couple days off which is always dangerous. Started thinking about splitting the stock 3 piece head gasket and messing with the squish and compression ratio. Since I put together the previous motor with reliability in mind I didn't mess with it any more than necessary and used a stock head gasket when I reassembled it. I tend to be my own worst enemy some times. 

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The pic above is the stock head gasket I pulled out. Bellow I've pulled it apart trying to talk some sense into myself.

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Might be a cheaper way for me to get a couple of horse power w/o going with high compression pistons and rods and such. Hmm?

Here's a cool link to some cool online calculators for all you mental masterbaiters out there. You know who you are...

Let's go folks, who's with me?

 

Might find more reliability/power with proper gapped piston rings if you haven't done so vs just throwing on stock rings... every  motor we(myself and buddy) have built/rebuilt in last 7+yrs we have set the ring gap- nitrous, NA, forced induction each have own ring gap standard... 

maybe switching to aftermarket valve springs from WebbCams will offer some reliability gains since I know them race bike motors spin rpms- more consistent valve pressure, less valve float,etc...

Or throw in some 650cc injectors and run pump gas e85 😁- who doesn't  love $1.75/gal for gas - just avoid "winter blends"...

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Just now, norcal616 said:

Might find more reliability/power with proper gapped piston rings if you haven't done so vs just throwing on stock rings... every  motor we(myself and buddy) have built/rebuilt in last 7+yrs we have set the ring gap- nitrous, NA, forced induction each have own ring gap standard... 

maybe switching to aftermarket valve springs from WebbCams will offer some reliability gains since I know them race bike motors spin rpms- more consistent valve pressure, less valve float,etc...

Or throw in some 650cc injectors and run pump gas e85 😁- who doesn't  love $1.75/gal for gas - just avoid "winter blends"...

This motor is low time and still pretty tight,

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So I'll probably leave the stock pistons and rings in it for now.

Get outta here with your damned e85, lol.  Interesting idea but I'm stuck with the spec fuel however.

If I had the scratch the springs would be a go.

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norcal616

I got more ideas I can offer but I will save em for later 😅

I'm kinda irked ARP don't have a FZ/MT-07 bolt/stud kit unless I give em the measurements/ or send em the bolts to make one for me and future sales 😑

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mossrider
Just now, norcal616 said:

I got more ideas I can offer but I will save em for later 😅

You're a big help...😏

 

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norcal616
31 minutes ago, mossrider said:

You're a big help...<img src=">

 

I thought buy running e85 you would save some good money in fuel cost which would  allow you to buy more stuff...

The other ideas are like running  alcohol which could let you do away with the coolant system, ceramic coated pistons, bigger head valves, ceramic engine bearings, big bore kit, Ti head valves, a turbo(see picture), maybe add some mini electric fans in the intake runners to help force air in... 

 

Here is the $5 turbo 😁

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As for a head gasket to run your own squish would be left to a solid 1pc material... them stock head gaskets need all 3pcs to work/seal as they crush together...


2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW
 

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mossrider
Just now, norcal616 said:

Here is the $5 turbo 😁

$5 turbo he says...scratches chin...sounds legit...hmm...🤔

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