TenRacing Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 9:11 AM, robbo10 said: I am impressed. Now, what does it weigh after al that? Never weighed it. maybe I will once i get a few more things done over this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted December 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, TenRacing said: finally got the holy grail... Beautiful shock! Is the bell crank a first gen from Andy Palmer? I ask because he had a failure and redesigned the bell crank to better carry the forces between the shock and dog bone link. With the above design the forces are concentrated at the main pivot where there is little bulk to handle the loads. Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted December 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 This pic shows the failure. Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted December 12, 2019 Author Share Posted December 12, 2019 I've see that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted December 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 hours ago, blackout said: This pic shows the failure. Where or what position would this put me in? I'm installing a AP 1st. gen rear link/riser using everything else stock on the swingarm and a Ohlins stx-46 rear shock? nothing to worry about! or should I be concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted December 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 hours ago, fzar said: Where or what position would this put me in? I'm installing a AP 1st. gen rear link/riser using everything else stock on the swingarm and a Ohlins stx-46 rear shock? nothing to worry about! or should I be concerned Do you have a first gen AP bell crank like shown in the above picture? If yes, then there is a clear design flaw and it needs to be upgraded. Andy shared the picture I posted on FB over the summer and said he will replace them with his new design. @fzar, send me a picture of what you have if you are uncertain. Below is a picture of the stock bell crank. The distance between the two lines is roughly 1.13 inches. Anything less on a newly designed part would be a compromise in strength. Especially since the aftermarket bell cranks seem to all have a longer arm where the shock attaches. This only increases forces at the main pivot area. 2 Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted December 31, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, 1tondriver said: Did anything become of this? Was your 1st gen okay? Just got back from colorado, 13 hours driving. I'll get back to this thread, im drinking a beer right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 My boy came up last weekend as we finally got started on the bikes for next year. He's fitting a Parrish body on his first gen SV, we both got new woodcraft rearsets and stands. I've got a list of parts and things I want to do but a very short stack of cash... #racerprobs Started with the shock/link, then it was eithe mod the subframe for clearance of buy AP aluminum one... which you can see what option I chose 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Like @mossrider stated 6# weight savings over stock. I still need to clean up where I cut the bottom tubes off the main frame. I modded the battery tray as well, will post pics tomorrow. Edited January 1, 2020 by TenRacing added coments 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted January 1, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 18 hours ago, 1tondriver said: I have found one used and I believe it is the 1st generation link. I am not sure if Andy will replace it since I am not the original purchaser. I am also curious how it worked with you STX? Let me know "> I believe I purchased a 1st. gen from @pgeldz I don't have it installed. I'll run the stock link as long as I can ride( weather permitting) and then if I get a 2-3 day hiatus I'll be pulling the entire swingarm and replacing all the seals and re-greasing, with the link installation. Was there a problem with the 1st. Gen link? If so I din't hear of it. @1tondriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted January 1, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/12/2019 at 7:25 AM, blackout said: Do you have a first gen AP bell crank like shown in the above picture? If yes, then there is a clear design flaw and it needs to be upgraded. Andy shared the picture I posted on FB over the summer and said he will replace them with his new design. @fzar, send me a picture of what you have if you are uncertain. Below is a picture of the stock bell crank. The distance between the two lines is roughly 1.13 inches. Anything less on a newly designed part would be a compromise in strength. Especially since the aftermarket bell cranks seem to all have a longer arm where the shock attaches. This only increases forces at the main pivot area. I'll take measurments tomorrow as it seems as it doesn't matter if it's installed or not as the bell crank measurment would be the same on or off the bike. I don't know if I have the Gen 1 or not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 My thread has been hijacked.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Cut down the stock battery tray 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted January 2, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 hours ago, TenRacing said: My thread has been hijacked.... I apologize for my part in that. Maybe the moderators can move some posts to a suspension board.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, fzar said: I apologize for my part in that. Maybe the moderators can move some posts to a suspension board.! No worries, I was kind of being a smart a$$ and hoping to curb it at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tondriver Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, TenRacing said: No worries, I was kind of being a smart a$$ and hoping to curb it at the same time. Well I bowed out and deleted a few posts. Bike is coming together nicely. Now back to your original programming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, 1tondriver said: Well I bowed out and deleted a few posts. Now back to your original programming that was not necessary, but thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enduro250 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 8:32 PM, TenRacing said: Cut down the stock battery tray who is providing this subframe? I would like to have one TOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted January 17, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 12/12/2019 at 7:25 AM, blackout said: Below is a picture of the stock bell crank. I have stock bell crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 having a shet day, anyone interested in buying a FZ race bike? great chassis and body set up, with a stock motor.... Or someone talk me off the ledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TenRacing said: having a shet day, anyone interested in buying a FZ race bike? great chassis and body set up, with a stock motor.... Or someone talk me off the ledge. C'mon back, we'll get through this. ☏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 thanks, I love road racing too much don't think i could actually quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TenRacing said: thanks, I love road racing too much don't think i could actually quit. Prolly gonna be some rough sailing for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenRacing Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 could be real tough on the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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