vcyclenut Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I had some time yesterday to dyno the bike stock, with the snorkel removed and with the snorkel removed and a sprint filter. I was going to test the hord intake but after starting to install it I decided it would be an ass pain to go back to stock airbox and abandoned the testing till I add an exhaust. I have not seen testing like this posted and I though some of you would find it useful, this is with no tuning done at all. I think the bump in midrange is worth the slight loss on top by pulling the intake snorkel. Interesting that the exact opposite happened as I would have thought. Bump in the middle with a drop off on top. This is why real testing is need not assumption or seat of the pants. Red = all stock Blue = intake snorkel removed green = intake snorkel removed with sprint filter 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) I'm certainly the last person to dissuade testing and tinkering but if you search Hord, Hord Power, JD Hord, intake, performance upgrades or anything similar you'll find that there is actually a metric crap tonne of information on here including dyno charts. Go to Hords web site and all the dyno charts are there as well as on here. Having said this a person could easily use this info as a guide to save time and effort and go in unexplored directions to develop new data. Edited May 2, 2019 by mossrider 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br4nd0n Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Do you by chance have a larger image? It is hard to see much of anything with the lines being so close to one another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartman5impson Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) Here is a link to hordpower's website with the fz07 dyno charts Yamaha FZ-07 WWW.HORDPOWER.COM I didn't see any dyno charts there for the snorkel so I'm hoping @vcyclenut can upload a higher quality image! Also now I am wondering how removing the snorkel affects an fz with an aftermarket exhaust + tune/fuel controller. Edited May 3, 2019 by bartman5impson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, bartman5impson said: Here is a link to hordpower's website with the fz07 dyno charts Yamaha FZ-07 WWW.HORDPOWER.COM I didn't see any dyno charts there for the snorkel so I'm hoping @vcyclenut can upload a higher quality image! Also now I am wondering how removing the snorkel affects an fz with an aftermarket exhaust + tune/fuel controller. Its a small difference in power when removing the snorkel. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 here is about a large as the site will allow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br4nd0n Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Thanks, that's readable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godoy.rafa Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Very small difference, no point at all in modding this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, godoy.rafa said: Very small difference, no point at all in modding this... I disagree but its your bike, for a completely free literally 2 minute mod I think its a nice little gain in area under the curve in the rpm range that you ride the most 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godoy.rafa Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, vcyclenut said: I disagree but its your bike, for a completely free literally 2 minute mod I think its a nice little gain in area under the curve in the rpm range that you ride the most True. Up to 100mph, the mod will give good results. But do you think this is something noticeable on the real world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, godoy.rafa said: True. Up to 100mph, the mod will give good results. But do you think this is something noticeable on the real world? IDK but this is why I test on a dyno. Improvements are usually made in steps. Removing the snorkel is a good first step if your not planning on getting the HORD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 10, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, vcyclenut said: IDK but this is why I test on a dyno. Improvements are usually made in steps. Removing the snorkel is a good first step if your not planning on getting the HORD Do you plan on dyno testing the Snorkel with the bottom section (rubber inside of filter) removed? I would think that the curved snorkel would or could provide a more laminar flow into the air box. Ed "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 I hadn't thought of that , ill take a look at it and if its feasible ill test it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godoy.rafa Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Do I have to remove fairings and lift the tank? Or can I do it by removing the seat only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 10, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, godoy.rafa said: Do I have to remove fairings and lift the tank? Or can I do it by removing the seat only? It looks like you may be able to grab it with the seat removed and pull it out of the airbox lid. There is a molded lip that holds it to the lid, you'll want to try and push it inwards or squeeze it to remove it from the lid. Otherwise the plastic comes off and you lift the tank. Ed 1 1 "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godoy.rafa Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Evill_Ed said: It looks like you may be able to grab it with the seat removed and pull it out of the airbox lid. There is a molded lip that holds it to the lid, you'll want to try and push it inwards or squeeze it to remove it from the lid. Otherwise the plastic comes off and you lift the tank. Ed Do you think this will cause problems with riding in heavy rain, or washing the bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixSpeeder Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, godoy.rafa said: Do you think this will cause problems with riding in heavy rain, or washing the bike? No. I live in the Seattle area and ride in the rain with the snorkel removed and it's never been an issue (or after washing my bike). There's no water pooling in there when I check the airbox drain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 10, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, godoy.rafa said: Do you think this will cause problems with riding in heavy rain, or washing the bike? I don't think it would be an issue, that area is protected pretty well by the bodywork. I have not heard of any issues. I trimmed mine and left the snorkel on. "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 10, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 10, 2019 BTW - I can remove and reinstall the trimmed snorkel with just the seat removed. It's tight, but it can be done. Ed 1 "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 4:21 PM, Evill_Ed said: Do you plan on dyno testing the Snorkel with the bottom section (rubber inside of filter) removed? I would think that the curved snorkel would or could provide a more laminar flow into the air box. Ed I thought you were on to something when I looked at what you were saying, but it did not perform better anywhere then just pulling the snorkel. These were literally done 5 minutes apart with that being the only change so its real data 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 4:54 PM, godoy.rafa said: Do you think this will cause problems with riding in heavy rain, or washing the bike? I have heard this a few times that people think it will. Just look at the intake of any modern ram air bike and this worry will quickly go away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted May 15, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 The OEM airbox is pretty well made to meet a variety of regulations, etc.. i just think it's just lacking the ability to be useful past 7k rpms... Shorter intake tracts(none inside the box) or go the "Hordpower" or filter pod route seems to be the trick... 1 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 15, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 15, 2019 58 minutes ago, vcyclenut said: I thought you were on to something when I looked at what you were saying, but it did not perform better anywhere then just pulling the snorkel. These were literally done 5 minutes apart with that being the only change so its real data Thank you for running it and posting the data. I will be pulling it off completely (the Snorkel ). 2 "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member cornerslider Posted May 16, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 16, 2019 Since the original post was in "general discussions", I assume that this isn't a race bike??? Do yourself the same favor I did- pull the trigger on the Hordpower intake system. If your'e nervous about riding in the rain, K&N makes a "pre-filter" wrap for that filter. I bought one, but I don't think it's needed .... Hord did ALL the research, and developed with both an ECU flash, as well as a PCV map (if you go that direction as I did). He is pleasure to deal with, and that intake system + PCV map is by far the BEST $300 I ever spent on my bike!!! It pulls like a freight train! And no, I don't work for Hord, I'm just a very happy customer- 1 ""W.O.T. until you see god, then brake" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Evill_Ed Posted May 16, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted May 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, cornerslider said: Since the original post was in "general discussions", I assume that this isn't a race bike??? Do yourself the same favor I did- pull the trigger on the Hordpower intake system. If your'e nervous about riding in the rain, K&N makes a "pre-filter" wrap for that filter. I bought one, but I don't think it's needed .... Hord did ALL the research, and developed with both an ECU flash, as well as a PCV map (if you go that direction as I did). He is pleasure to deal with, and that intake system + PCV map is by far the BEST $300 I ever spent on my bike!!! It pulls like a freight train! And no, I don't work for Hord, I'm just a very happy customer- The Hord airbox, tune and pipe were next on my list until the Tax Man came April 15th. They will be the next modifications for sure. ed "Do not let this bad example influence you, follow only what is good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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