New Ruroc ATLAS Helmets

[Laben]

ATLAS™ Helmets - Ruroc

WWW.RUROC.COM

 

New to motorcycle game, but they have made snow mobile helmets for a while a believe. 

Pretty cool design's although not SNELL approved which I believe is only because it costs so much for the cert.

This is my personal favorite. The Limited Edition Ronin.

 

What do you guy's think?

[Benh972]

Looks like a nice new premium option. I hope it is  legit, more choices for riders and competition for our dollars is always good. 

[Laben]

Look's to be fairly riced for a decent helmet. Hopefully they come out with other graphic's though.

[DewMan]

I'm not paying that kind of $$ for a lid that's not SNELL certified.

[Zephyr]

Looks ok.  There's a few things I wish they provided details for (or maybe they have I  didn't investigate thoroughly).  How many different lids are they making for their size offerings?  Is the visor "tool change" only or is it easy to swap "on the fly" without tools and how many "detents" for partially open riding.  I don't see a way to close / manipulate the air vents.  The bluetooth integrated sound is nice, but for the price you could be looking into an external kit (Cardo slim) that can be installed in any helmet rather than proprietary for a single lid.  I like what they're doing for an intro into the world of moto helmets, but I'm not sure that they would be on my short list if I was in the market.  I know that my insta feed has been bombarded by their adverts for a while now.

[persydonkers]

10 hours ago, Laben said:

ATLAS™ Helmets - Ruroc

WWW.RUROC.COM

 

New to motorcycle game, but they have made snow mobile helmets for a while a believe. 

Pretty cool design's although not SNELL approved which I believe is only because it costs so much for the cert.

This is my personal favorite. The Limited Edition Ronin.

 

What do you guy's think?

Yea pretty stoked about this helmet. was hoping to be able to go check one out and one of the shops soon but the i talked to the rep sounds like its strictly online for now. I snowboard so i know of their helmets that way and people love them, so im hopeful its a good product cause i like the looks. but  the lack of vent adjustments is something i noticed. Emailed "ChaseOn2Wheels" he was a stoked on this helmet a year or so ago and he said he had one in the mail to do a review on . so fingers crossed on its a decent lid.

[Cruizin]

Cute looking, but I only wear helmets that are ECE rated. And this is not. 

 

 

[Benh972]

1 hour ago, Cruizin said:

Cute looking, but I only wear helmets that are ECE rated. And this is not. 

 

 

Looks like it is just missing Snell. The specs look good, but still when you make a premium safety product skimping on certifications is something that needs to be addressed.

Is there some part of Snell testing or methodology the company disapproves of or fear would unrealistically punish a design aspect of the product? I could get behind that, but an expense excuse on a $400+ plus lid just does not compute.

[Laben]

14 hours ago, Zephyr said:

Looks ok.  There's a few things I wish they provided details for (or maybe they have I  didn't investigate thoroughly).  How many different lids are they making for their size offerings?  Is the visor "tool change" only or is it easy to swap "on the fly" without tools and how many "detents" for partially open riding.  I don't see a way to close / manipulate the air vents.  The bluetooth integrated sound is nice, but for the price you could be looking into an external kit (Cardo slim) that can be installed in any helmet rather than proprietary for a single lid.  I like what they're doing for an intro into the world of moto helmets, but I'm not sure that they would be on my short list if I was in the market.  I know that my insta feed has been bombarded by their adverts for a while now.

that's how I found them. hmmmm 

[Laben]

3 hours ago, Benh972 said:

Looks like it is just missing Snell. The specs look good, but still when you make a premium safety product skimping on certifications is something that needs to be addressed.

Is there some part of Snell testing or methodology the company disapproves of or fear would unrealistically punish a design aspect of the product? I could get behind that, but an expense excuse on a $400+ plus lid just does not compute.

I agree. For a company that has been selling lids for a while I feel they would have the necessary funds for SNELL. like you said I also wonder if it's something they just disagree with or something that would punish the design. 

[Beemer]

As far as the looks go I think they look alright and I like some of the features. As far as safety goes I'm looking at the specs on the Atlas Raptor and the site says it's safety certification is, "DOT FMVSS 218 + ECE 22.05", which is good if your helmet is struck in the field the same way it was struck in either test environment. If it isn't, good luck! Without reviews to go by I have to say you're on your own, happy shopping and GL picking a helmet that puts a smile on that potato face! (your avatar) Ha!

[Cruizin]

I must be going freaking blind from staring at forums too much.

 

 

[DewMan]

42 minutes ago, Cruizin said:

I must be going freaking blind from staring at forums too much.

 

 

Yep, that must be the reason.... it couldn't be any other reason.

[Laben]

14 minutes ago, DewMan said:

Yep, that must be the reason.... it couldn't be any other reason.

Isn't there an old tale about going blind? 

[topazsparrow]

18 minutes ago, Laben said:

Isn't there an old tale about going blind? 

Masturbation!

[SkH]

I had this helmet (the basic paintjobs) preordered from nearly 1.5 years ago.  It was supposed to come out last year Feb but it kept being pushed back because their initial internal design couldn't get the certifications.

 

Every single email I got was a pushback notice, most recently I was supposed to get the helmets shipped late Jan.  Still waiting on them.

 

For my troubles, I did get a nice roll-up drybag, headsock, and quickdry t-shirt and stickers. 

 

Whenever I do get mine I'll post a review.

Edited March 1, 2019 by SkH

[Laben]

5 hours ago, SkH said:

I had this helmet (the basic paintjobs) preordered from nearly 1.5 years ago.  It was supposed to come out last year Feb but it kept being pushed back because their initial internal design couldn't get the certifications.

 

Every single email I got was a pushback notice, most recently I was supposed to get the helmets shipped late Jan.  Still waiting on them.

 

For my troubles, I did get a nice roll-up drybag, headsock, and quickdry t-shirt and stickers. 

 

Whenever I do get mine I'll post a review.

I would truly appreciate it!

[Beemer]

22 hours ago, Cruizin said:

I must be going freaking blind from staring at forums too much.

 

 

Nah, it's all that internet porn, they say it can make you go blind.  

[SkH]

Well, finally got my helmet.  I ordered it Oct 2017, received it Apr 2019.

The Review has been revised from the original, see my last post in this topic for information.

The Review:

What's in the box:

Inside the box is clear visor (tinted visor attached to helmet- or vice versa), stickers, soft cloth helmet bag, and keychain* (there is a reason for the keychain)

Looks/Fit and Finish

First look of it, you can see it looks badass.  Sorry, I grew up in the days of Gi Joe cartoons, and I can't help but think it looks like something out of Gi Joe.  That is what prompted me to preorder it in the first place.

As you can see, I got mine in white.  The helmets they are currently selling are special editions, and last I checked the "Core" versions aren't fully released.  It will be released next month, but I see it is only available in black.  The original helmet I received was Arctic White which is a matte color.  Be aware of the matte finish.  It will stain with bug guts (but you can remove the stains using a magic erasure).  Note, after my initial review and complaint about the matte finish and how it stains... they sent me out a custom painted gloss white helmet (WTF?  What company would do such a thing, these guys are awesome!!).  Pic below of both helmets.  Don't worry, I only get to keep one.

Everything looks and feels solid.  Visor opens well enough with one hand (do not over-tighten visor screw, more on that later).  Gasket was shaped perfect (the helmet was designed for use with goggles as well, it has a rubber gasket along the entire visor cutout)

 

Feel, Comfort wind and noise:

I had initial problems with the pre-production helmet I received.  The final product was much to my relief, damn good.  The helmet slips on and off easily with no pain whatsoever.  The inner padding is full and rests on your face (forehead and cheeks).  This is incidentally the first helmet I've owned that does that, my wife's helmet has been like that.  It is very comfortable.  If you wear glasses, I have no problems slipping it in and out through the visor opening.  And there is no pain involved doing so.

I normally wear earplugs, and if you do as well, this is neither here nor there, but I've taken several spins without earplugs at 45-50mph max and the wind noise is very good.

There is large amounts of air coming in through the chin area and the helmet definitely would benefit from a chin skirt.

The upper ventilation is permanently open (According to Conrad Jone's post below water will not go in so that is good to know).  You can open and close the mouth vents.

As far as fogging goes, it is the spring summer season, but I did take it out at around 55 f degree weather and did not experience any fogging on my glasses.

The chin-strap is a nifty magnetic system that I have not seen before.  The closest thing was the ratchet system some helmets may have.  This one is obviously much easier than the ratchet with the added benefit of something similar to a d ring at the end (something ratchet systems are greatly lacking).  Although you will need two hands initially to adjust the straps, but that isn't a big deal.

The Visor:

The visor  looks cool and you can open it with one hand (that is the most important thing for me) provided the visor screws are not tightened too tight.  The keychain that comes with the helmet has a hex/allen wrench meant for removing the visor screws so you can change out the visors.  Although this might seem like an inconvenience I was told it was so you can change to the goggles and that does make a lot of sense.

You can see the round screw with a hex key hole in the middle.

In the pic, you can see I have a Sena 20S on it.  As far as Sena fitment goes.  The 20S clamp system does fit, just barely.  You will have to lift open the cushion that is against the helmet.  The stick-on adhesive will not work unless you stick it up somewhere high (and even then I'm sure about that).  10R slim should stick on fine, I was originally going to resort to using the 10R until I realized I can stretch the cushion "open".

 

Optional goggles (may not be available as of May 2019):  Main reason I did get this helmet because it had a goggle option.  Since the preorder days to now, it seems to no longer be an option but they still sent out my order of the goggles with the second helmet.  Here is the picture of the helmet with the goggles in place:

The main reason for wanting the goggles is because I wear glasses and having goggles completely eliminates fogging because the goggles presses up against your face along with the foam gasket of the goggles.  I tried it on and it is very comfortable and as expected, no fogging up occurred.  Now here is a caveat... I'm not sure if they no longer intend for you to use goggles with this helmet?  As mentioned, it is no longer an orderable option at the website.

As far as fit goes, I'm guessing because of the "spoiler" on the back of the helmet which sits in the middle of where the goggles will be they decided not to specifically say goggles are compatible but it still seems to fit fine, and if you re-install the visor screws, the screws will prevent the straps from riding up- as the upward swoop of the spoiler may or may not make the back of the strap ride up (see picture above- you can see the strap sits below the jutting hex screw).  Replacing the goggles lens is fairly easy which is a godsend compared to Shark Vancore/Raw/Drak goggles.  Unlike said goggles where you have to remove the straps and strip the frame, Atlas goggles you just flip up the end pieces near the strap, and pull out the magnetic lock lens.  Very easy and very welcomed.

UPDATE: It turns out the goggles they sell for their ski/snow helmets DO NOT fit the motorcycle helmet.  The motorcycle goggles are much larger.  DO NOT buy their Nastek goggles as they are incompatible.  I contacted the company and a representative said the Atlas Goggles will eventually be back up soon.

Overall:

Overall, the helmet is beautiful and looks very cool and unique.  Ok, let's face it, it does look badass.

At 400 dollars price point.. I am very happy with this helmet.  It looks good.  It has both a visor and goggle system.  I love goggles, they work better for me with my glasses.  But I also like having a visor.  This is the best of both worlds.  The goggles I can use during the winter where low temperatures will usually cause fogging.  The visors I can use during the warmer months.  The helmet feels great putting it on and off.  Convenient magnetic chin strap system.  Definitely happy with their finished product.

It should be noted that customer service from Ruroc is top-notch.  When I pre-ordered, and experienced push-back dates, they gave anyone who pre-ordered a whole bunch of freebies.  T-shirts, nice nifty dry sacks, head socks.  It seems to turn out I was one of the first people to receive a helmet in April while the majority of helmets will be sent in June.  This is further justified in the fact that Ruroc representative Conrad knew who I was after making my initial review here.  The helmet I initially received wasn't in the best form and when I complained about it in the original review, I received tremendous customer support.  They sent out 2 additional helmets and some extra freebies!  WTF, who does that?  Anyway, needless to say Ruroc definitely wanted to be sure I was happy with the helmet and they went above and beyond to make it happen.  This information must be passed on to you guys because think of all your customer service experiences with a company, and think of what I just wrote.  How often do you experience something like that?  I honestly never have in the past, so they blew me away and I will support the company in the future.  In the near future I will be purchasing additional visor colors and when the goggles are officially released, I will also purchase additional lenses.

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2019 by SkH
updates

[sorkyah]

wow, nice looking but a POS. 
thnx @SkH

[Zephyr]

@SkH Bummer about the product.  Glad you finally received something, but if it were me I'd be contacting them asap about a proper replacement, then depending on the response I would post the above review in every media forum I could find and tag them to make sure that I got their attention.  There's really no excuse for a lot of the negatives that you mention.  From what I understood, they have been in the premium snowboard market for a while with lids, so it shouldn't be a huge leap to get fit and finish worked out in advance of production.

I hope that your story has a happier ending than it currently stands.

[Laben]

@SkH Damn man. That's a bummer. I was hoping it would be such a great helmet, but thank you for the review! That's the only way i'd want to see a review is a first hand non-sponsored experience. ..Now I will start look elsewhere.

[SkH]

The next post has update info.

Edited May 31, 2019 by SkH

[Zephyr]

@SkH Well played sir.   

My thought was that they spent a huge amount of time and money on marketing and as such should have produced a product to match.  My first take would be to reach out and see what their response would be as noted above.  The individual complaints may have been "nit-picking" but the overall sum is something short of delivering on promises.  Thank you for taking time to inform us here.

[Conrad]

@SkH

Hey Chris! 

 

It's Conrad here from Ruroc! I am so sorry for this I have no idea how this got through our QC, you shouldn't have having any issues on discoloration or mismatching components on the visor trim area!

 

This seems like you've received a factory rework rather than the finished article.

 

We'll replace this no problem at all!

 

We believe your fitting issues may have been caused by the Tri-Composite shell which is thicker than the Carbon model - we made some adjustments before Carbon production and that will no doubt be a better fit for you. It's likely that you're on the high end of our Medium by the sounds of things, but the Carbon Medium is a comfier fit.

 

The magentic buckle takes a little getting used to the first time, but it super easy for new riders when compared to the D Ring.

As for strap adjustments there is a super simple method, simply pull the strap out of the adjustor and slide the adjustor to the correct position - then thread the strap back into the adjustor to secure that position. It's a one time adjustment so hopefully nice and easy once you know that.

 

The visor opening and closing being tight is actually by design - but admittedly different to a lot of helmets. It does two things: 1) it prevents water ingress whilst riding 2) it gives you freedom to lift the visor in micro measurements rather than having a big "clack" that then locks right in your FOV.

 

If the visor is too stiff it may have been overtightened in production, so one turn of the screw should loosen that enough for you and it should be working great.

 

As for not having the "satisfying click" on the visor that's actually a design compromise we went with because Atlas is a 'convertible' helmet where the visor and visor mechanism can be fully removed, and then worn with a seamless fit goggle similar to our RG1 ski helmet. The lock mechanism would have made the Goggle a big misfit so we went without it to be able to get that watertight fit on Goggles and Visor.

 

The non-closing vents on the top of the helmet don't take in water when riding, we've ridden through some pretty heavy rain in testing!

 

You're right about the chin curtain and the connection for it is pre-made on your helmet but we didn't want to delay delivery for that so we're producing and testing those right now and should have them available, for free, to riders in the next 2 months.

 

Really glad to hear the noise on the helmet is good for you, but so sorry about the rest of the issues!! We're going to get this sorted for you straight away!

 

If you thought it was a Gloss White I am really sorry about that, our whole team believed we'd made it clear as Matte White (Arctic White) which is what we say for our Matte ski range... It's a total oversight on our part for not making that clear on that one and we're happy to do you a special Gloss White one-off so we aren't messing you around.

 

Let's get you a helmet you'll love