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Laben
WWW.RUROC.COM

 

New to motorcycle game, but they have made snow mobile helmets for a while a believe. 

Pretty cool design's although not SNELL approved which I believe is only because it costs so much for the cert.

image.png.a4562517d21411d44f22f2f5e1565028.png This is my personal favorite. The Limited Edition Ronin.

 

What do you guy's think?

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Benh972

Looks like a nice new premium option. I hope it is  legit, more choices for riders and competition for our dollars is always good. 

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Laben

Look's to be fairly riced for a decent helmet. Hopefully they come out with other graphic's though.

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Zephyr

Looks ok.  There's a few things I wish they provided details for (or maybe they have I  didn't investigate thoroughly).  How many different lids are they making for their size offerings?  Is the visor "tool change" only or is it easy to swap "on the fly" without tools and how many "detents" for partially open riding.  I don't see a way to close / manipulate the air vents.  The bluetooth integrated sound is nice, but for the price you could be looking into an external kit (Cardo slim) that can be installed in any helmet rather than proprietary for a single lid.  I like what they're doing for an intro into the world of moto helmets, but I'm not sure that they would be on my short list if I was in the market.  I know that my insta feed has been bombarded by their adverts for a while now.

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persydonkers
10 hours ago, Laben said:
WWW.RUROC.COM

 

New to motorcycle game, but they have made snow mobile helmets for a while a believe. 

Pretty cool design's although not SNELL approved which I believe is only because it costs so much for the cert.

image.png.a4562517d21411d44f22f2f5e1565028.png This is my personal favorite. The Limited Edition Ronin.

 

What do you guy's think?

Yea pretty stoked about this helmet. was hoping to be able to go check one out and one of the shops soon but the i talked to the rep sounds like its strictly online for now. I snowboard so i know of their helmets that way and people love them, so im hopeful its a good product cause i like the looks. but  the lack of vent adjustments is something i noticed. Emailed "ChaseOn2Wheels" he was a stoked on this helmet a year or so ago and he said he had one in the mail to do a review on . so fingers crossed on its a decent lid.

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Benh972
1 hour ago, Cruizin said:

Cute looking, but I only wear helmets that are ECE rated. And this is not. 

 

 

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Looks like it is just missing Snell. The specs look good, but still when you make a premium safety product skimping on certifications is something that needs to be addressed.

Is there some part of Snell testing or methodology the company disapproves of or fear would unrealistically punish a design aspect of the product? I could get behind that, but an expense excuse on a $400+ plus lid just does not compute.

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Laben
14 hours ago, Zephyr said:

Looks ok.  There's a few things I wish they provided details for (or maybe they have I  didn't investigate thoroughly).  How many different lids are they making for their size offerings?  Is the visor "tool change" only or is it easy to swap "on the fly" without tools and how many "detents" for partially open riding.  I don't see a way to close / manipulate the air vents.  The bluetooth integrated sound is nice, but for the price you could be looking into an external kit (Cardo slim) that can be installed in any helmet rather than proprietary for a single lid.  I like what they're doing for an intro into the world of moto helmets, but I'm not sure that they would be on my short list if I was in the market.  I know that my insta feed has been bombarded by their adverts for a while now.

that's how I found them. hmmmm 🤔

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Laben
3 hours ago, Benh972 said:

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Looks like it is just missing Snell. The specs look good, but still when you make a premium safety product skimping on certifications is something that needs to be addressed.

Is there some part of Snell testing or methodology the company disapproves of or fear would unrealistically punish a design aspect of the product? I could get behind that, but an expense excuse on a $400+ plus lid just does not compute.

I agree. For a company that has been selling lids for a while I feel they would have the necessary funds for SNELL. like you said I also wonder if it's something they just disagree with or something that would punish the design. 

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Beemer

As far as the looks go I think they look alright and I like some of the features. As far as safety goes I'm looking at the specs on the Atlas Raptor and the site says it's safety certification is, "DOT FMVSS 218 + ECE 22.05", which is good if your helmet is struck in the field the same way it was struck in either test environment. If it isn't, good luck! Without reviews to go by I have to say you're on your own, happy shopping and GL picking a helmet that puts a smile on that potato face! (your avatar) Ha!

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DewMan
42 minutes ago, Cruizin said:

I must be going freaking blind from staring at forums too much.

 

 

Yep, that must be the reason.... it couldn't be any other reason. 😆


DewMan
 
Just shut up and ride.

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Laben
14 minutes ago, DewMan said:

Yep, that must be the reason.... it couldn't be any other reason. 😆

Isn't there an old tale about going blind? 

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topazsparrow
18 minutes ago, Laben said:

Isn't there an old tale about going blind? 

Masturbation!

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SkH
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I had this helmet (the basic paintjobs) preordered from nearly 1.5 years ago.  It was supposed to come out last year Feb but it kept being pushed back because their initial internal design couldn't get the certifications.

 

Every single email I got was a pushback notice, most recently I was supposed to get the helmets shipped late Jan.  Still waiting on them.

 

For my troubles, I did get a nice roll-up drybag, headsock, and quickdry t-shirt and stickers. 

 

Whenever I do get mine I'll post a review.

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Laben
5 hours ago, SkH said:

I had this helmet (the basic paintjobs) preordered from nearly 1.5 years ago.  It was supposed to come out last year Feb but it kept being pushed back because their initial internal design couldn't get the certifications.

 

Every single email I got was a pushback notice, most recently I was supposed to get the helmets shipped late Jan.  Still waiting on them.

 

For my troubles, I did get a nice roll-up drybag, headsock, and quickdry t-shirt and stickers. 

 

Whenever I do get mine I'll post a review.

I would truly appreciate it!

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Beemer
22 hours ago, Cruizin said:

I must be going freaking blind from staring at forums too much.

 

 

Nah, it's all that internet porn, they say it can make you go blind. 😉 😂

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SkH
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Well, finally got my helmet.  I ordered it Oct 2017, received it Apr 2019.

Inside the box is clear visor (tinted visor attached to helmet), stickers, helmet bag, and keychain* (there is a reason for the keychain)

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Immediate impression is there seems to be issues with the fit and finish of the product.  First of all, my white is matte white.  I wish I knew that ahead of time (it is just labeled as Arctic White, nothing more, the original images, it was glossy- I still have the original images).  Well, it ain't glossy.  There seems to be a permanent yellowish stain on the top of the helmet.  Looks like there was a mixture issue with the paint, so my assumption is that might've been the starting point of the color spray in which it wasn't fully mixed.  It is faint, hard to tell, but with my eyes I see it clearly. 

Here is a composite.  Top image is a normal picture (if you scroll the image/post up and down repeatedly, I'm guessing you might be able to see the discoloration).  Its hard to see but you might be able to make it out.  Bottom picture, I oversaturated it, amplifying all colors.  It sticks out easily when saturated.

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There are black inserts on the helmet, and the back has a black "spoiler".  It appears, at least on the corners, it is adhered with heavy duty double stick tape.  Well, it wasn't fully adhered on mine.  I had to press it in.  No biggie, if it comes off, I'll be sure to permanently place it with some type of epoxy.

The gasket that gives an "air tight" seal where the visor meets the helmet is misaligned, and I cannot straighten it.  Its more or less bent.  You don't see it with the visor down.  You will definitely notice it when the visor is up.

Here is a pic of gasket.  I tried to move it around, tried to pull it up, nothing, it just stays bent.  No problem, I'm sure they aren't all like that but if you had OCD, it would be an issue.

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Yeah, so fit and finish is somewhat poor.

The shape... it turns out the top of my head is round, and this helmet seems to be designed for oval heads.  It is very uncomfortable on me.  I've got pure pain putting it on and off.  Also while riding, the area around my ears seems to have this very compressed feeling.  Had a headache after taking it off from using it the first time.

Sena S20 fits ok, not the best.  You need the clamp, and you need to force the cushion out.  You CANNOT use the double stick tape option mount for this helmet.  There is no surface area anywhere on it that will allow proper adhesion.

The visor is very hard to open and close.  It has a very poor system.  Lots of friction.  It does not have that clicky solid, satisfying feeling of any other helmet with a visor.  Its pretty bad.  What's even worse is to remove the visor, it requires a hex key wrech... which they included as a keychain.  A bottle opener/hex key keychain. 

>>> Vid of the visor opening... <<<

You can see the round connector with a hex key hole in the middle.  *EDIT* the black spoiler corner which you can see in this picture adhered nicely to the tape, so I don't think it will pop out again in the immediate future.

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When riding, the bottom outer corners of the visor have a warp in the vision, so that isn't good.

The upper ventilation is permanently open.  You can only open and close the mouth vents.

There is no chin skirt.  My other helmet, the Shark Vancore never had a chin skirt or an option for one, yet it was designed well where wind did not enter from the bottom.  This helmet it feels like riding with your chin fully exposed to the wind.  Kind of a bummer.  They need to make a chin skirt.

Other than the chin wind issue, wind noise doesn't seem too bad.

The chin strap is annoying.  Well, only annoying in the beginning.  It is some kind of magnetic lock, that isn't the issue, it is sizing the strap, you cannot tighten/loosen the strap with one hand, so you cannot do it wearing the helmet, it is a double buckle strap, so it requires two hands to tighten or loosen which is annoying since I had to put on take off the helmet a few times and it freaking hurts my ears every single time.  Even though it is magnetic, it still has a semblance of a d ring so it can be secured on a helmet lock.

Although I bought it as a slightly cheaper price point than what it sells for now, I would not recommend anyone paying 400 dollars for this helmet.  You are better off buying a popular name brand and spending 400 bucks on one of those which will give you both quality and comfort.  You are essentially paying a premium for the look of the helmet (you look like a GI Joe) and nothing more.  This helmet should be in the 200 dollar price point.  Man, 3 years ago I imported my Vancore for 230 and I still love that helmet.

Oh yeah, final note, after taking it out for a spin, I had bug guts on the helmet and I could not clean off the gut color streaks on the freaking matte white paint job... until I used a Mr Clean magic eraser... this helmet is such a pain!

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Zephyr

@SkH Bummer about the product.  Glad you finally received something, but if it were me I'd be contacting them asap about a proper replacement, then depending on the response I would post the above review in every media forum I could find and tag them to make sure that I got their attention.  There's really no excuse for a lot of the negatives that you mention.  From what I understood, they have been in the premium snowboard market for a while with lids, so it shouldn't be a huge leap to get fit and finish worked out in advance of production.

I hope that your story has a happier ending than it currently stands.

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Laben

@SkH Damn man. That's a bummer. I was hoping it would be such a great helmet, but thank you for the review! That's the only way i'd want to see a review is a first hand non-sponsored experience. ..Now I will start look elsewhere.

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SkH

I updated original post and included pics of my nit picking, plus added a vid link .  Who knows, maybe over time the visor will loosen up and get easier.

 

12 hours ago, Zephyr said:

@SkH Bummer about the product.  Glad you finally received something, but if it were me I'd be contacting them asap about a proper replacement, then depending on the response I would post the above review in every media forum I could find and tag them to make sure that I got their attention.  There's really no excuse for a lot of the negatives that you mention.  From what I understood, they have been in the premium snowboard market for a while with lids, so it shouldn't be a huge leap to get fit and finish worked out in advance of production.

I hope that your story has a happier ending than it currently stands.

Most of the issues are nit picking, and my main issue is the shape of the helmet which hurts my ears.  I don't think that is something I'll bother with trying to replace other than getting a size up, but I don't think one size up is a good idea.  Also I am not going to waste my time for them to correct the paint issue.  Its their first motorcycle helmet, so I'll just chalk it up to inexperience.  Sure, they've been making ski helmets for some time but I think after the year + delays it probably is very apparent to them it wasn't an easy transition to make.

I know taking to social media and blasting people is what all the kids are doing these days, but I come from a time of decorum and manners, I won't be doing that.  Ok, I'm not that old, in some measurements I might even just barely be a millennial but maybe its my Japanese blood, we don't do that kind of thing.  Now, if I were to make a shoddy product, I'll eviscerate my bowels open for sure, but if someone else makes a shoddy product, I'll just never support them with my money ever again- which is the only course of action I'll be taking... well, besides, I already informed some of you here on the social media avenue (is this considered social media??) so that's as far as I'll take it.

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Zephyr

@SkH Well played sir.   

My thought was that they spent a huge amount of time and money on marketing and as such should have produced a product to match.  My first take would be to reach out and see what their response would be as noted above.  The individual complaints may have been "nit-picking" but the overall sum is something short of delivering on promises.  Thank you for taking time to inform us here.

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Conrad

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Hey Chris! 

 

It's Conrad here from Ruroc! I am so sorry for this I have no idea how this got through our QC, you shouldn't have having any issues on discoloration or mismatching components on the visor trim area!

 

This seems like you've received a factory rework rather than the finished article.

 

We'll replace this no problem at all!

 

We believe your fitting issues may have been caused by the Tri-Composite shell which is thicker than the Carbon model - we made some adjustments before Carbon production and that will no doubt be a better fit for you. It's likely that you're on the high end of our Medium by the sounds of things, but the Carbon Medium is a comfier fit.

 

The magentic buckle takes a little getting used to the first time, but it super easy for new riders when compared to the D Ring.

As for strap adjustments there is a super simple method, simply pull the strap out of the adjustor and slide the adjustor to the correct position - then thread the strap back into the adjustor to secure that position. It's a one time adjustment so hopefully nice and easy once you know that.

 

The visor opening and closing being tight is actually by design - but admittedly different to a lot of helmets. It does two things: 1) it prevents water ingress whilst riding 2) it gives you freedom to lift the visor in micro measurements rather than having a big "clack" that then locks right in your FOV.

 

If the visor is too stiff it may have been overtightened in production, so one turn of the screw should loosen that enough for you and it should be working great.

 

As for not having the "satisfying click" on the visor that's actually a design compromise we went with because Atlas is a 'convertible' helmet where the visor and visor mechanism can be fully removed, and then worn with a seamless fit goggle similar to our RG1 ski helmet. The lock mechanism would have made the Goggle a big misfit so we went without it to be able to get that watertight fit on Goggles and Visor.

 

The non-closing vents on the top of the helmet don't take in water when riding, we've ridden through some pretty heavy rain in testing!

 

You're right about the chin curtain and the connection for it is pre-made on your helmet but we didn't want to delay delivery for that so we're producing and testing those right now and should have them available, for free, to riders in the next 2 months.

 

Really glad to hear the noise on the helmet is good for you, but so sorry about the rest of the issues!! We're going to get this sorted for you straight away!

 

If you thought it was a Gloss White I am really sorry about that, our whole team believed we'd made it clear as Matte White (Arctic White) which is what we say for our Matte ski range... It's a total oversight on our part for not making that clear on that one and we're happy to do you a special Gloss White one-off so we aren't messing you around.

 

Let's get you a helmet you'll love 😁

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