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How to Completely Removal of ABS System?


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On 4/2/2019 at 8:45 PM, pegasus46 said:

I am sure curious how you can brake better than MM & VR because their bikes have ABS.

Those guys aren't running a "budget" ABS system.... The system those guys run is probably more expensive/advanced than even the most highly modified FZ-07R that us mortals run-

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On 4/2/2019 at 8:45 PM, pegasus46 said:

I am sure curious how you can brake better than MM & VR because their bikes have ABS.

MM & VR are human ABS & traction control systems...that's why they are them & we are us.

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yea i know necro.  but whatever I hate ABS.

I don't think ABS is illegal in motogp just no one uses it because it sucks so bad.  You get a lot of people that think its amazing, most of those i have found don't even ride.  No one in any kind of racing uses it either.  Its just being forced on everyone probably because of ass lick politicians got paid to do it.  Like they know anything about motorcycles or driving even...

 

1.  I love the it's not ok for racing but great for street use excuse too.  Like just ask a cop about how he thinks ALL motorcyclists ride.  So obviously no racing here...

2.  It almost triples the amount of brake fluid needed in the system.  This adds to spongy brakes and less feed back from the brakes.

3.  The MSF people took a day 1 rider, had NO previous riding experience, in less then an hour he could out break ABS.  So these only the pros can break that good people must really suck.

4.  Up until 2018 you couldn't even corner properly on a motorcycle with ABS.  That is why they put the lean angle switch on the ABS.  So obviously this crap has been well tested.

5.  I have had ABS trigger when barely breaking, for no reason whatsoever.

6.  When it does trigger it whips the wheel back so hard it almost hurts.  ABS is spastic shet.

7.  I have had it kick my foot off the rear brake.  I thought i ran into something and looked down to see if my foot was still on the end of my leg.  I don't trust my brakes anymore.

8.  Just remove the fuse?  see 2 and 4.  Why should I have to pay for something that doesn't work.  Let these dumb f@#ks that think the shet is so great buy it and install it aftermarket.  Where is our mandatory tail tidy legislation.  Or mandatory loud pipes saves lives legislation...

 

So f@#k Volkswagen Group.  Eat shet and die you f@#king nazi bastards.

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Great post! Just my 2 cents. Abs for standard riding in public is amazing on the mt07. I've never had issues with it other then it having abs in the rear wheel as well. 

Ive noticed that if I am riding over bumps while braking the abs system will respond. I think this happens because the front wheel bounces off the ground a bit when hitting bumps causing the wheel to stop. 

Thankfully not many roads are that bad out here or I don't approach them fast enough. As fair as braking goes into corners. Gosh I would be really nervous braking that late into a corner in public. 

I would never track with abs and motogp riders don't use abs. The brakes are designed in a special way I don't recall. 

Ill just pull the fuse for now. Replace the system in the future when I track it only. 

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Fast_Frankenstein

Hello All, This is more a "bump" than anything else - The FZ07 ABS is terrible (compared to any current, adjustable ABS). I have a R6 front end so obviously don't have ABS, but the pump etc are still on the bike (Front lines are direct from master to calipers. I'd like to remove the pump etc, however a caveat - I wish to continue to have a speedo. Has anyone installed a transmission speed sensor in exchange for the rear wheel sensor? Wiring diagrams seem to show the same wire color from both sensors to the meter assembly, but am not certain that the counter would be the same. Any thoughts on keeping codes away with the ABS pump unplugged would be a bonus. All thoughts appreciated (minus the "ABS is always better" bla-bla.  :) 

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On 8/27/2021 at 10:51 PM, Fast_Frankenstein said:

I'd like to remove the pump etc, however a caveat - I wish to continue to have a speedo.

Could you just run the rear brake directly to caliper and leave the pump and wheel sensor attached? It's extra weight but it's not affecting your braking anymore

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On 11/4/2018 at 1:18 PM, Mad said:

If you can stand the orange light you could just remove the abs fuse ... you can store it in the same box and be able to reuse it if you change mind .

 

I tried this and now my speedo reads ZERO… YIKES! Help

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31 minutes ago, Oneway_MT said:

I tried this and now my speedo reads ZERO… YIKES! Help

Don’t you worry could you show me a photo of the fuse box and show the fuse you removed ?

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57 minutes ago, Mad said:

Don’t you worry could you show me a photo of the fuse box and show the fuse you removed ?

I ended up putting the fuse back in I haven’t taken it for a ride because it’s now up on the stand with both wheels off and tank fairings are off it’s they’re going to go get painted in the 

 

MT07 rapid red for the tank fairings and wheels are getting painted gloss white 

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Remove only the 30 and let me know 💪🏻

maybe try it on the stand , just to be totally sure the speed is shown ( of course when the wheel are back ) 😂

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2 hours ago, Mad said:

Remove only the 30 and let me know <img src=">

maybe try it on the stand , just to be totally sure the speed is shown ( of course when the wheel are back ) <img src=">

Would the 30 remove the abs and not screw up my speed reading? The same way it did before? So I leave the 7.5 in and remove the 30? I have 7 days starting from tomorrow to get it on and try it!

 

Dumb Question coming in… 3….2…

 

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removing the 30 is the 2nd one correct lol not the ones on the left… 

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46 minutes ago, Oneway_MT said:

Would the 30 remove the abs and not screw up my speed reading? The same way it did before? So I leave the 7.5 in and remove the 30? I have 7 days starting from tomorrow to get it on and try it!

 

Dumb Question coming in… 3….2…

 

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removing the 30 is the 2nd one correct lol not the ones on the left… 

If you look at the lid, you'll see the three fuses on the left are spare fuses, so yes, the one on the right.

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2 hours ago, Oneway_MT said:

Would the 30 remove the abs and not screw up my speed reading? The same way it did before? So I leave the 7.5 in and remove the 30? I have 7 days starting from tomorrow to get it on and try it!

 

Dumb Question coming in… 3….2…

 

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removing the 30 is the 2nd one correct lol not the ones on the left… 

Yes, just the 30 on the right, if I’m not mistaken I remove that one for the track and the speedometer works just like before 

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2 hours ago, Mad said:

Yes, just the 30 on the right, if I’m not mistaken I remove that one for the track and the speedometer works just like before 

And abs is off?

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2 hours ago, Oneway_MT said:

And abs is off?

Correct. 

 

The larger 30amp fuse is larger because it's what's running the abs motor. With the motor "unplugged" it can't run, so abs will not activate.

 

The smaller amp fuse are smaller because it's just running the sensors and such that make your speedo work. 

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40 minutes ago, shinyribs said:

Correct. 

 

The larger 30amp fuse is larger because it's what's running the abs motor. With the motor "unplugged" it can't run, so abs will not activate.

 

The smaller amp fuse are smaller because it's just running the sensors and such that make your speedo work. 

I wish I knew all of this before thinking I was mr know it all with Fuses! HAHAH! Thanks guys! 
 

I would not need to clear codes or anything? No error codes are coming up so I don’t think I should worry just yet 

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Fast_Frankenstein
On 9/3/2021 at 12:57 PM, Loch said:

Could you just run the rear brake directly to caliper and leave the pump and wheel sensor attached? It's extra weight but it's not affecting your braking anymore

The issue is that I'm looking to run the R6 rear wheel - different disc, no ABS ring.

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On 9/8/2021 at 2:50 PM, Fast_Frankenstein said:

The issue is that I'm looking to run the R6 rear wheel - different disc, no ABS ring.

How did you go with that any luck?

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