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Thoughts on the new Nitron Cartridge For kits?

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bicheichane

I am really, really leaning to get the full kit here, shocks and cartridge kit. Just want to have any sort of feedback on the cartridge kit.. I would have gone instead for the matris set (shocks and cartridge) since they're substantially cheaper, but I've already read that the forks have the compression leg all screwed up but since I'm not american it would be a lot of work to get the fix from pattonme and put it all to work I guess.. I don't know if it's worth the hassle or not, or if I'm just better off splurging on the nitron set. Budget is not a huge issue.. if anyone could provide any input here I'd be really appreciated

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norcal616

since your EU based- look into Bitubo if you have not, lots of thumbs up fron forum users and Bellissimoto is a forum vendor for em...  

 

if you say budget is not an issue- R6 front end swap- 

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bicheichane

Not sure if I want to get the front end of an R6. I do want fully adjustable suspension, but I'm not looking to hit the track, only canyon carving and commuting, with or without pillion, with or without fully loaded top cases. I'm not trying to go for a racing suspension in the sense of it being super firm or whatever, and I could be completely wrong on this as I haven't researched the R6's suspension, but from an outsider it does look like it'll be on the super sporty side of the deal

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blackout

Knowing Nitron, their cartridge kit is most likely top notch.  They have been working on a fz07 kit for a couple years, so I assume they did their home work.

 

The R6 swap is quite expensive and not a simple bolt on.  Nothing wrong with RSU forks.  But I did just see the new R3 comes with 37mm USD forks....

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bicheichane

So I contacted their sales department about the forks, and this is one thing they told me:

 

"You have actually just pointed out a mistake on our website, the 25mm cartridges are not available on this bike, however our smaller 22mm cartridge kit is available. We can do this kit for £550 + VAT, there is no Pro upgrade option on this though I’m afraid."

 

So disregard nitron's 25mm fork kit on their website (at the time of this writing)!

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topazsparrow

Super interested in these. Would love to see @pattonme do a comparo!

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gregjet

Has anyone heard from pattonme recently. I can't seem to contact him and haven't seen him lurking. Hopefully he is just on holidays

 

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DewMan
54 minutes ago, gregjet said:

Hopefully he is just on holidays

@pattonme is more likely buried in work knowing him. But I also hope he's doing well.

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elmo

FYI- Last week, Matt provided some guidance for my Matris cartridge  inserts lacking rebound. Much appreciated thanks,

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Zupatun
9 hours ago, elmo said:

FYI- Last week, Matt provided some guidance for my Matris cartridge  inserts lacking rebound. Much appreciated thanks,

My Matris inserts, worked my Matt are doing fine!  Trackdays and around town dodging potholes...

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gregjet

Thanks elmo. I was getting a bit worried as he is usually quite communicative, but I am waiting for some cartridges and shock and emailed him last week and haven't heard back. I'll wait til the end of the week and try again.

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elmo

Gregjet, stay patient and keep trying to contact him, PM me and can provide his #. 

Matt mentioned he is currently working to much to participate, but the future looks better.

I have Matris F15K  cartridges and self installed  Matt's shim piston package year + ago. Been happy with performance until  after a Sonoma track day a few months ago. Dave Moss told me I needed to speed up rebound to avoid my bad front tire ware. However my rebound  was already at max , so took apart the cartridges, and ask Matt for help addressing this issue. Thankfully he said yes, and ceated attached shim/piston chart with Matt's guidance.

Just completed re-build today and back on the bike tomorrow.

 

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elmo
On 10/19/2018 at 10:10 PM, elmo said:

Gregjet, stay patient and keep trying to contact him, PM me and can provide his #. 

Matt mentioned he is currently working to much to participate, but the future looks better.

I have Matris F15K  cartridges and self installed  Matt's shim piston package year + ago. Been happy with performance until  after a Sonoma track day a few months ago. Dave Moss told me I needed to speed up rebound to avoid my bad front tire ware. However my rebound  was already at max , so took apart the cartridges, and ask Matt for help addressing this issue. Thankfully he said yes, and created attached shim/piston chart with Matt's guidance.

Just completed re-build today and back on the bike tomorrow.

 

779989390_MatrisF15Kshimstacks-FZ-07ReboundandCompupperleg1of2sm.thumb.JPG.09a72925787e4fbaf7cd110d621644de.JPG

 

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On 10/19/2018 at 10:10 PM, elmo said:

Gregjet, stay patient and keep trying to contact him, PM me and can provide his #. 

Matt mentioned he is currently working to much to participate, but the future looks better.

I have Matris F15K  cartridges and self installed  Matt's shim piston package year + ago. Been happy with performance until  after a Sonoma track day a few months ago. Dave Moss told me I needed to speed up rebound to avoid my bad front tire ware. However my rebound  was already at max , so took apart the cartridges, and ask Matt for help addressing this issue. Thankfully he said yes, and ceated attached shim/piston chart with Matt's guidance.

Just completed re-build today and back on the bike tomorrow.

 

779989390_MatrisF15Kshimstacks-FZ-07ReboundandCompupperleg1of2sm.thumb.JPG.09a72925787e4fbaf7cd110d621644de.JPG

 

836325065_MatrisshocklowerlegsshimprofileFZ07.thumb.JPG.1bd9ea8cfd603ad47f6a2679534b63c0.JPG

 

Edited by elmo
Up dated lower leg piston shim profile

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fzar
On 10/16/2018 at 4:49 PM, gregjet said:

I was getting a bit worried as he is usually quite communicative,

I was also, there was the part of me thinking something bad had happened (family funeral) etc. and I realised every Tom,Duke, and Harry wants him to re-build their suspension after the racing season has mostly ended. Jeez people are so demanding, me included. I somehow managed to get over myself, (PHEW) and just roll with whatever happens, will happen. I have time before I need his services and feel it best to go with the flow, in the meantime 70F Degrees today scrubbed in a new rear tyre. I had fun doing it too, tomorrow is looking about the same so Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho it's off to the twisties I go.

Edited by fzar
No idea!!!

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firstyammerha

man, that's a lot of washers. My mid eighties Ohlins had about half the shims on each side of the piston. Guess time  and technology march on.

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fzar

Just a heads up: 

 

Attention - change in business processes

By pattonme, June 20 in Forks by Matt 

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Posted June 20

In light of the pretty lousy job I've been doing this spring on fulfillment turn-around I am making the following changes.

* shipping in of forks for service/install will only be accepted between Nov and March.
Exceptions are possible but will ONLY be done via reservation (online calendar here) and upon confirmation of kit being built and allocated.

* GSXR retrofits are mostly retired. I will still be making some up and maybe doing some cool things like Big-Piston forks, but since they take so much time and effort to do, I will instead be providing Andreani, Matris F15k, and Ohlins NIX-22 for ready consumption. If you really want the GSXR option you may need to be patient.


* Commercial items (Andreani, Matris, Andreani, Ohlins etc.) and shock orders (Nitron, K-TEch, Ohlins etc) will be processed in 2 or 3 business days and reflected in Paypal via the 'In Process' state label.

I will endeavor to stock K-Tech and Nitron shocks, Andreani and Matris fork kits so dependency on upstream suppliers is mitigated.

I would like to continue to be this forum's choice of quality suspension parts at good prices and I hope I can earn back some of the reputation I held previously. 

Thank you.

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Ceotogo

We went the Andreani Fully Adjustable Front Cartriges and Nitron 3 Way Adjustable rear. $1450 usd.

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