Cruizin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I only use non ethanol, 91 octane and it currently costs $3.99 per gallon here. Regular gas here is around $3.45 a gallon. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member DewMan Posted July 3, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted July 3, 2018 Those prices sound like Cali prices @Cruizin. Currently, 91 octane ethanol is $3.09/USgal. Regular is $2.65/USgal around here last time I checked... but then it can vary 20¢/gal just between breakfast and lunch time. I remember when the price difference between regular to mid grade to "premium" grade was only 10-15¢/USgal. When did it become 20-30¢ ? DewMan Just shut up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted July 3, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am paying $4.19 for ethanol free 89 octane in NW WA. Regular is $3.38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liqwiq Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 ~$6.20/USgal for 95 RON octane (91 PON) in Croatia, EU. Fuel is up to 5% ethanol and there is no ethanol free fuel. ~1.41 € per liter 10.40 HRK per liter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'm paying $3.19 for ethanol free. Check it out>>>> https://www.wawa.com/about/locations/store-locator Enter 33573 Sun City Center in locator. Jeez, I pay less for ethanol free than you do for regular. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyow5 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Y'all do know the manual explicitly states that E10 is okay, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member DewMan Posted July 3, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Beemer said: I'm paying $3.19 for ethanol free. Check it out>>>> https://www.wawa.com/about/locations/store-locator Enter 33573 Sun City Center in locator. Jeez, I pay less for ethanol free than you do for regular. Sometimes I forget how fortunate we are here in the U.S. and especially locally when it comes to gas prices. DewMan Just shut up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted July 3, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted July 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, cyow5 said: Y'all do know the manual explicitly states that E10 is okay, right? I know that, but I do not like having ethanol fuel that might be sitting in the tank for a while. I do not mind the extra cost when I am only buying three gallons at a time. My car gets almost twenty percent better mileage on ethanol free gas, so you can basically knock 80¢ a gallon off the cost as I am probably going further on each tank if my bike has the same increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyow5 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, mjh937 said: I know that, but I do not like having ethanol fuel that might be sitting in the tank for a while. I do not mind the extra cost when I am only buying three gallons at a time. My car gets almost twenty percent better mileage on ethanol free gas, so you can basically knock 80¢ a gallon off the cost as I am probably going further on each tank if my bike has the same increase. I'm right there with you on the "for three gallons, what does it matter?" Nothing wrong with that. Heck, I used premium during break-in just to avoid knock at all costs, and, out of habit, haven't downgraded yet. All my cars require premium anyways. That being said, I am not aware of any non-E gas in my area (read: I'd have to fill up near my house just to get to the non-E station), so that settled that one pretty quick for me, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyow5 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 There has to be some sort of local government political reason for this. This is the void of non-E stations as you get close to DC (my commute is in red): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, cyow5 said: Y'all do know the manual explicitly states that E10 is okay, right? My pickup gets an extra 90 miles per tank with non ethanol. Try it for yourself. Ethanol sucks we had it shoved down our throats by the govt to subsidize the corn farmers. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 hours ago, cyow5 said: Y'all do know the manual explicitly states that E10 is okay, right? Thanks and I'm aware but it's a personal choice. Whether I'm right or wrong, I just don't believe that detergents burn as well, as clean as gasoline. I don't care what their tests say, I think they're fouled and misleading just to get everyone on board the corn wagon. I think they want us all to be corn fed and brain dead so that we're easier to control. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 hours ago, DewMan said: Sometimes I forget how fortunate we are here in the U.S. and especially locally when it comes to gas prices. I wonder how much Yellowhammers are paying for gas since their cost of living is so low. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarGuy7a Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 11 hours ago, Cruizin said: My pickup gets an extra 90 miles per tank with non ethanol. Try it for yourself. Ethanol sucks we had it shoved down our throats by the govt to subsidize the corn farmers. I agree on that. Ethanol does have cleaner burning benefits though but on the downside it also takes more ethanol to do what normal (non ethanol) gasoline does. I believe they also started adding it to simply sell more "product" as well. I had an old 98 chevy Z71 1500 during the days of (non ethanol gas) and was getting around 14-16 mpg city driving depending on my foot. After they started adding ethanol my city mileage went down to 8 MPG!!!! and I'm not even kidding. With that being said gas prices here in KY have been hovering right around $2.80 to $2.90/gal for regular and right around $3.10 or so for 92. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I'd have to drive an hour round trip to find some unbranded station that sells non-E10. I'd be perfectly happy to consume that ethanol some other way, but going that far out of my way to not use it in the vehicles doesn't exactly seem cost effective or practical. Just paid a whopping $3.68 for 91 Octane here. in SW PA. And that was outside the city where it would cost even more. That was for the Aprilia,. I'll use 89 in the FZ. My Subaru Outback knocks badly in the summer heat on the recommended 87 E10! It's just garbage and won't even put it in the 20 year old lawn muncher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexlj92 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Paid $3.21 for non-ethanol 87 today for the car. I typically put 93 in it since it gets a little more HP with it tuned for 93, but wanted to try the non-ethanol and see how my mileage would be affected. The non-ethanol 87 ended up being around the same as upt to 10% ethanol 93. Will be putting non-ethanol 90 in the bike tomorrow to see the effect. One station in the middle of Atlanta is listed as having it and Ill be over that way so I figure why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev74 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 $5.66 per gallon in Austria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrtgr Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1.6 Euro per liter for 95 octane gas. That's 7.07 USD per gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guylee Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I didn't pay much attention last time I filled but I think E free 91 just broke the $3 mark here in the Denver Metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyow5 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 1:39 AM, CarGuy7a said: I agree on that. Ethanol does have cleaner burning benefits though but on the downside it also takes more ethanol to do what normal (non ethanol) gasoline does. I believe they also started adding it to simply sell more "product" as well. I had an old 98 chevy Z71 1500 during the days of (non ethanol gas) and was getting around 14-16 mpg city driving depending on my foot. After they started adding ethanol my city mileage went down to 8 MPG!!!! and I'm not even kidding. With that being said gas prices here in KY have been hovering right around $2.80 to $2.90/gal for regular and right around $3.10 or so for 92. The big thing is that ethanol has a huge cooling effect when sprayed. This doesn't do diddly for a low compression, low cylinder pressure engine like a truck (as you've both noticed), but it can provide a benefit for a heavily boosted motor like we are starting to see with downsizing. It's the same as when running too high of an octane rating - if the engine doesn't need it then it won't help. Ethanol has a lower energy content, so that's why you see the lower fuel economy when the engine doesn't need the charge-cooling help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturbomax Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Ill chime in as soon as i run out of gas, im trying to compete in the range/mpg thread lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick97702 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Tucson AZ QuickTrip $2.71 for 87 $3.15 for 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 $4.29 for 93 at Shell gas. E-Free is normally around the same price as it is only available at a few stations. Costco is normally ~15-20 cents cheaper than Shell. Big Island, HI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo10 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 $6.60 in England Just do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted July 8, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted July 8, 2018 I'm paying a $1.38 per litre for non-ethanol 91 octane ($5.22 per US gallon) in the Saint John, NB, Canada area. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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