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Anyone have experience between the EBC EPFA and the Brembo SC brake pads?

Street and track ride the bike and currently have the EBC EPFA. No issue on the track, but the pads do lack some initial bite on the street.

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stickshift

Can't comment on the EBC but I have the Brembo SC and am happy with them. They're fine on street and track once properly bed in.

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mjh937

There have been a few guys on the forum who have the EBC pads and I have heard only good things about them.  Hopefully someone with first hand knowledge will chime in. 

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botticelli

I have used em. The EBC have a bit more initial bite on the street, but honestly I have yet to find a better pad than the OEM. Its great for the track, the street, no fade, and the price is right.

 

The EBC's stay strong for long but when they go its all at once. The feel changed and they were in the trash bucket.

 

OEMs for me, if it aint broke .....

 

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gregjet

EBC's are known to increase the wear on discs , but not consistant for all bikes. Disc material matters so if they are fine they are fine.

My preferred pads for the track were Bendix Carbon Metallics( track /street) or Carbon ( RACE ONLY!!! they are shet on the street). Best brake feedback I have ever had when bedded in properly. Very easy on discs and wet feel changes to soften the initial bit , so it help with the front end stability.

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norcal616

GG rated pads seem to be best all around performance... 

 

a good mod would be running bigger rotors for more stopping power for those who prefer to use the front brakes like a crotch rocket... suspension setup also effects brake performance... 

 

I still got OEM pads/rotors after 17k miles, rear brakes look more worn than front...

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scratchpad

On this bike nothing more than OEM brake pads are needed even in the fastest race conditions. I raced on the first set for 2 seasons before i changed to Galfer. We have Galfer lines on the front as well. Never had fading with OEM or Galfer. The brakes are good on this bike. I know that doesnt answer your question. 

 

If you want intial bite buy some Vesrahs. Watch out though, you might end up on your head.

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Beemer
18 hours ago, norcal616 said:

GG rated pads seem to be best all around performance... 

 

a good mod would be running bigger rotors for more stopping power for those who prefer to use the front brakes like a crotch rocket... suspension setup also effects brake performance... 

 

I still got OEM pads/rotors after 17k miles, rear brakes look more worn than front...

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I have just over 30k on mine and they still perform well. I wouldn't think of using anything else. Well, maybe steel braided line but that's it and that's really not necessary either.

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DewMan
4 hours ago, Beemer said:

I have just over 30k on mine and they still perform well. I wouldn't think of using anything else. Well, maybe steel braided line but that's it and that's really not necessary either.

I agree that for normal riding they're not really needed but I've also seen how fast the Florida heat takes out rubber wiper blades....and I very well could be way off base here, but I'd feel more confident with  steel braided lines. But unfortunately they do not yet make a name brand kit for U.S. ABS FZ-07 models that I've been able to find for sale here in the U.S.. I'm hoping with the addition of the all ABS 2018 U.S. MT-07 models  that will change and that the kit will work on my 2017.

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norcal616
2 minutes ago, DewMan said:

I agree that for normal riding they're not really needed but I've also seen how fast the Florida heat takes out rubber wiper blades....and I very well could be way off base here, but I'd feel more confident with  steel braided lines. But unfortunately they do not yet make a name brand kit for ABS FZ-07 models that I've been able to find for sale here in the U.S.. I'm hoping with the addition of the all ABS 2018 U.S. MT-07 models  that will change and that the kit will work on my 2017.

might be a problem... the ABS units require a dealership tool to active/cycle the ABS unit if air gets inside during brake line replacement/upgrade...

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DewMan
1 minute ago, norcal616 said:

might be a problem... the ABS units require a dealership tool to active/cycle the ABS unit if air gets inside during brake line replacement/upgrade...

Yeah I've heard that. I've also watched numerous videos that cover how to do that without taking your bike to the dealer but none specific to the FZ-07.

 

From the research I've done on the subject,  the issue is getting old fluid flushed from the ABS pump. There are ways to get that done without taking it to the dealer. Though I won't list those methods here since I've not used any of the methods yet and don't want to recommend any of them until I've confirmed any of them will work on the MT/FZ-07.  One method is a simple jumper wire and key manipulation process that engages the ABS pump. I'm hoping by the time they make a steel braided  kit I can get my hands on there'll be a proper documented method specific to the MT-07. ✌️

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blackout
2 hours ago, DewMan said:

I agree that for normal riding they're not really needed but I've also seen how fast the Florida heat takes out rubber wiper blades....and I very well could be way off base here, but I'd feel more confident with  steel braided lines. But unfortunately they do not yet make a name brand kit for U.S. ABS FZ-07 models that I've been able to find for sale here in the U.S.. I'm hoping with the addition of the all ABS 2018 U.S. MT-07 models  that will change and that the kit will work on my 2017.

Call Speigler to see if they are working on a ABS FZ-07 kit.  I mean, it's only Yamaha's best selling bike....  :)

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DewMan
6 hours ago, blackout said:

Call Speigler to see if they are working on a ABS FZ-07 kit.  I mean, it's only Yamaha's best selling bike....  :)

Yeah, I did. They wouldn't admit to anything.

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Beemer
18 hours ago, DewMan said:

I agree that for normal riding they're not really needed but I've also seen how fast the Florida heat takes out rubber wiper blades....and I very well could be way off base here, but I'd feel more confident with  steel braided lines. But unfortunately they do not yet make a name brand kit for U.S. ABS FZ-07 models that I've been able to find for sale here in the U.S.. I'm hoping with the addition of the all ABS 2018 U.S. MT-07 models  that will change and that the kit will work on my 2017.

Yep, my blades don't hold up too long either. I got to looking around for rubber protectants and ran across this stuff. It appears many people love it. It's solvent free and lanolin based so it helps to keep rubber parts soft/supple in the heat, prolonging their life. I checked out some videos on you tube where people used it on their undercarriages of their vehicles and the stuff really works well and doesn't damage anything. It's particularly good for electronics (exposed end connectors) where moisture and salt are present in the air. Boaters should want this badly. Enough said, here's a link for it. I'm getting some for my bicycles that are rusting outside if for nothing else. I'll try some on my brake lines and wiper blades also.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Lubricant-Corrosion-Inhibitor-11-75-oz/dp/B00PWZ0XNM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1530796145&sr=8-3&keywords=fluid+film

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rhino

Installed the Brembo SC on the weekend, and feel they have a much great initial bite then the  EBC EPFA.  IRC similar to the OEM or the EBC HH pads

 

Next track day isnt till August 5 & 6, so will need to wait till then to compare track performance.

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FZ07R WaNaB

I went for a ride today, and was really liking my EBC HH pads over the OEM ones on the front discs. I have had the EBC pads for about 1300 miles which means that I am use to them, but for some reason today I remembered just how lame the stock ones were.

 

I don't get how some folks think the OEM pads are the best. I never did a thing other then change the pads as in no fluid change, bleeding or braided steel lines. So it really was an apple-to-apple comparison, and the OEMs sucked!

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howworkclutch
On 8/29/2018 at 3:10 PM, FZ07R WaNaB said:

I went for a ride today, and was really liking my EBC HH pads over the OEM ones on the front discs. I have had the EBC pads for about 1300 miles which means that I am use to them, but for some reason today I remembered just how lame the stock ones were.

 

I don't get how some folks think the OEM pads are the best. I never did a thing other then change the pads as in no fluid change, bleeding or braided steel lines. So it really was an apple-to-apple comparison, and the OEMs sucked!

maybe yamahaha changed pads at some point?  i have stock pads. they fade. i ordered braided lines and new hh pads when i got back from the last track day.

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Dare738
On 7/4/2018 at 3:16 PM, DewMan said:

I agree that for normal riding they're not really needed but I've also seen how fast the Florida heat takes out rubber wiper blades....and I very well could be way off base here, but I'd feel more confident with  steel braided lines. But unfortunately they do not yet make a name brand kit for U.S. ABS FZ-07 models that I've been able to find for sale here in the U.S.. I'm hoping with the addition of the all ABS 2018 U.S. MT-07 models  that will change and that the kit will work on my 2017.

I just emailed them and this was their response: Unfortunately we do not have this model, you can either use the Custom Brake Line section of our website to spec out the lines yourself , or you can send the OEM lines in to us for duplication . Unfortunately because we do not have a template to go off of those would be the only options at this time.

 

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