Premium Member databyter Posted June 29, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2015 http://www.service-shop-repair-manual.com/2015-2016-yamaha-fz-07-fz7-part-lit-11616-28-07-service-shop-repair-manual/ I just bought one. Looks like the real deal to me, and quite heavy and thick so it must have a lot of goodies inside. 35 bucks is pretty decent since I have seen it for 3 times that much elsewhere. Databyter Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulibiker Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Just bought one.............THANKS! That's the cheapest I've seen them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member so1102 Posted June 29, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2015 Wow that'a a good deal. I paid $80 for mine :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member tino206 Posted June 29, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2015 Let me know once you receive, I will buy it after I know it's legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 That looks 'hand bound' to me. Ie. someone scanned the factory manual or got their hands on the original PDF or publishing document and ran it off at Kinkos (they have policies against this sort of thing) or another commercial printer. The content is no doubt legit, but I am pretty sure the guy offering the service isn't doing so legally or lives in a jurisdiction that doesn't honor US or international copyright law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member tino206 Posted June 29, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2015 /\\ yep..that's why i opted with waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member so1102 Posted June 29, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2015 That looks 'hand bound' to me. Ie. someone scanned the factory manual or got their hands on the original PDF or publishing document and ran it off at Kinkos (they have policies against this sort of thing) or another commercial printer. The content is no doubt legit, but I am pretty sure the guy offering the service isn't doing so legally or lives in a jurisdiction that doesn't honor US or international copyright law. Good eye. I feel better knowing I paid full price for mine now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 https://whoisology.com/archive_9/service-shop-repair-manual.com Looks to me like a US-based entity. Granted the current record points to Panama but that's probably to duck the lawyers and cops. I sent a heads up to abuse@bigcommerce that they might want to take a look at their customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted June 30, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 Let me know once you receive, I will buy it after I know it's legit You bet. So far it seems very legit. Plus I paid for it with Paypal so I'm protected either way. They sent me confirmation on purchase, and on shipping status so far which seems pretty solid. I did register on the page, as opposed to buying as a guest, but I assume the emails and updates are part of any purchase, and a really good sign that these guys feed a lot of shops around the country. THere are tons of other manuals as well. I'll post my results when I get the manual, with pics. Databyter Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted June 30, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 That looks 'hand bound' to me. Ie. someone scanned the factory manual or got their hands on the original PDF or publishing document and ran it off at Kinkos (they have policies against this sort of thing) or another commercial printer. The content is no doubt legit, but I am pretty sure the guy offering the service isn't doing so legally or lives in a jurisdiction that doesn't honor US or international copyright law. Interesting I didn't notice the heavy duty binding. Then again, that's a lot of trouble to go thru to sell a pirated document. Most text books that this is done to are sold in 3 hole folders or similar. Lets wait till I get it and see. These are SHOP manuals, not bookcase trophies. I have seen legit service manuals with heavy duty binding built to last in a shop environment. The description specifically says there are genuine, but of course that means nothing. I would hesitate to report them, as someone said they have, until I do the review upon receipt. I do some nice pics, and we can see what the writing that seems to be stamped into the binding says. Databyter Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted June 30, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 That looks 'hand bound' to me. Ie. someone scanned the factory manual or got their hands on the original PDF or publishing document and ran it off at Kinkos (they have policies against this sort of thing) or another commercial printer. The content is no doubt legit, but I am pretty sure the guy offering the service isn't doing so legally or lives in a jurisdiction that doesn't honor US or international copyright law. Good eye. I feel better knowing I paid full price for mine now How was yours bound? Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted June 30, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 Zoomed in on the binding stamp. It just says "secure Bind". I can't call it. Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member so1102 Posted June 30, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2015 Good eye. I feel better knowing I paid full price for mine now How was yours bound? Uh like a normal book. With glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted July 1, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted July 1, 2015 How was yours bound?Uh like a normal book. With glue.This would appear to be somewhat suspect then, given the price and the binding. I'm witholding judgement until I recieve shipment, but I'll let you guys know what I get. Maybe the pic is an original binding with a shop friendly re-enforcement. Maybe not. Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cndnmax Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Even if it's a printed PDF version, 35 is a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Even if it's a printed PDF version, 35 is a fair price. I agree that the price is what it SHOULD cost from official channels. I mean, who buys a shop manual if they don't own the bike? Frankly it should come with the toolkit. But if the document is pirated (IMO better than even odds) then a DCMA notice should be served and the provider sued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulibiker Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Why should we "police" this? Seriously, isn't there people that do this? Come on, seller has a website & you're protected by Paypal. It's not like you're buying it from a guy named "Bubba" who lives in a van down by the river....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonme Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I wasn't advcating for 'police' but rather weighing your personal morals (assuming it does prove to be shady) and whether you wanted to support such a business. The DCMA would be Yamaha's business and their sole purview. If it's not worth the legal bill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted July 2, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted July 2, 2015 OK, second time is a charm I hope. I deleted my first attempt. I got the manual and had some issues with posting pics that I resized because they are somewhat distorted. Trying it again. The manual came in a USPS flat rate document box. It was wrapped with multiple layers of a packing wrap, and then the manual itself was shrink wrapped. It appeared the shrink wrap had been done quite some time ago and the manual stored because the back cover had a hole in the wrap from wear but no damage to the book. This is the shrink wrapped manual with some of the packing wrap I already removed in the frame. Hmm.. still seems a bit distorted, if you grap the URL http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h424/Databyter/20150701_174911.jpg you can view it on photobucket directly and navigate all the pics from there and it looks a bit better but still nowhere the quality of my original shots. These picks show the shrink wrap and binding, with one including a hand to show thickness. This is after completely unwrapping it. The binding incorporates a hard clear cover and a solid rear cover. It does not appear to be glued like the other FZ-07 members service manual, but rather pressed into a hardcover version. Here is an inside view. Wierd, I added a full res inside view when I saw how distorted the downsized one was on my original post. Then I deleted and put in the full one, then I uploaded the full res versions of ALL the pics, but some are still showing the low res, so either photobucket, or my own computer is using the cache of the low res of the same name. Hopefully you guys are seeing the better version. On my computer only some of the high res are showing high res. Anyway, here's the deal. It seems quality to me. I don't care if you guys buy it or not or have issues with it's source. I'm pretty happy with my purchase and it's your call. This may just be the hard copy shop version, an authorized reprint, or whatever for wholesale distribution to service shops, or not. I have no idea. I'm just glad I didn't have to shell out 80 bucks to a Company I just bought a 7 grand bike from. Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evfz Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thanks for the link and review...just ordered one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engte100 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Zoomed in on the binding stamp. It just says "secure Bind". I can't call it.What's the verdict, or you haven't received it yet? I am also looking to purchase a high-quality service manual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member databyter Posted August 6, 2015 Author Premium Member Share Posted August 6, 2015 Zoomed in on the binding stamp. It just says "secure Bind". I can't call it.What's the verdict, or you haven't received it yet? I am also looking to purchase a high-quality service manual...It's great. Used it a few times for myself and a few times for others. Still like new. As others have mentioned it may be a one off, but I really don't care one way or the other.. It is well done. After spending many thousands of dollars on the bike, I don't care to get bit on the price of a more comprehensive manual for it. This one hits the spot. Databyter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfisted Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 After seeing this thread, I ordered one for myself (and one for my Street Triple also). They're well put together, and the FZ-07 manual looks genuine. The Triumph manual had photocopy spots from the 3-hole punch and a few specks here and there. It's a good deal and worth getting, but they're definitely not genuine. Most definitely reprints, albeit good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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