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Shorty levers vs. OEM for beginners

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During my afternoon commute home today I was actually thinking about the forum and how much great information is available/shared. As a veteran rider I know a lot but I certainly don't know everything so I appreciate having this forum to refer to and learn from. Suddenly as I was down shifting I had a small "moment" and was reflecting on the FZ-07 engine braking - it's a blessing and a curse! Very uniquely different than most bikes. Pros and Cons. I was thankfull that I upgraded to "shorty levers" and wanted to share my experience with "newer riders" and also hear from other experienced riders that have upgraded to shorty levers. The draw and feel is so much more improved not to mention aesthetics. You have more control with less effort. I'm new to the forum so if this opinion had been posted and debated previously I apologize but otherwise if your new to riding and looking to build more trust and confidence with your bike/skills I would encourage you to ditch the stock levers and consider a shorty upgrade. pH
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mjh937
I installed standards length adjustable levers. I was surprised how much better the clutch was when the lever could be adjusted to where I want it. If you go short or standard I recommend upgrading to adjustable levers.
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tino206
Can't wait to get my shorties

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pH
So much more control with less effort!

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hippiebikerchick
I'm a newer rider and I don't understand how a shorty clutch lever is more adjustable than the stock lever. I have mine set up so I can shift with two fingers. Could you please explain to me what you are talking about?

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anips
I'm a newer rider and I don't understand how a shorty clutch lever is more adjustable than the stock lever. I have mine set up so I can shift with two fingers. Could you please explain to me what you are talking about?
For me, I have small hands and adjustable levers allows me to not have to open my hand wide open to reach the clutch.  I like short just because my whole hand fits the shorty lever (i.e. my whole hand when placed on the clutch, my pinky will be just before the end).  But any adjustable whether shorty or regular length will allow you to adjust the clutch much closer to the handlebar so you don't have to reach as far.  That's what I noticed at least.
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bmwpowere36m3
I'm a newer rider and I don't understand how a shorty clutch lever is more adjustable than the stock lever. I have mine set up so I can shift with two fingers. Could you please explain to me what you are talking about?
It's not that the shorty lever is more adjustable, just that many aftermarket levers (regardless of length) feature an adjustment that allows you to change how far the lever sits away from the bar "at rest" (just like the stock brake lever).  If you have small hands/fingers the stock clutch lever is quite a reach... because it sits quite a bit away from the bar.
As far as the length [of lever], I'd go so far as saying the majority of riders don't use 4 fingers on their clutch/brake levers.  Most find that 1-3 fingers is sufficient and the "long" factory levers can be a nuisance... not so much the brake lever, but the clutch.  Using 4 fingers on the factory clutch lever allows you to pull it all the way in to the bar, no problem.  However when you start using 1-3 fingers... depending on your hand the lever will hit one of your fingers still resting on the grip and thus not allowing you to pull the clutch lever all the way in.
I'll probably go to shorter levers at some point... I use 1-2 fingers on the brake and 2-3 fingers on the clutch lever when shifting, but 4 fingers if I have to stop or take off.
 
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thestache
Any particular brand of shorty you guys recommend. I just realized these might be a huge benefit to me as I was realizing how much I was downshifting on these curvy backroads

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pantheraleo
Any particular brand of shorty you guys recommend. I just realized these might be a huge benefit to me as I was realizing how much I was downshifting on these curvy backroads
I think Pazzo shorty levers are a great value. But any brand is better than oem. I rarely use more than two fingers.

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thestache
Any particular brand of shorty you guys recommend. I just realized these might be a huge benefit to me as I was realizing how much I was downshifting on these curvy backroads
I think Pazzo shorty levers are a great value. But any brand is better than oem. I rarely use more than two fingers.
Yeah that was what I started to notice today, constant shifting from 2-4 on the back-roads, and I realized my hands are not very long...well I knew that already :) :) 
Thanks @pantheraleo
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fooschnickens
I'm a newer rider and I don't understand how a shorty clutch lever is more adjustable than the stock lever. I have mine set up so I can shift with two fingers. Could you please explain to me what you are talking about?
For me, I have small hands and adjustable levers allows me to not have to open my hand wide open to reach the clutch.  I like short just because my whole hand fits the shorty lever (i.e. my whole hand when placed on the clutch, my pinky will be just before the end).  But any adjustable whether shorty or regular length will allow you to adjust the clutch much closer to the handlebar so you don't have to reach as far.  That's what I noticed at least.
There's also people with long fingers or big hands who can't use the two finger method because the stock (or even standard length aftermarket) levers crush their fingers still around the bar. This is especially true for me because while I am capable of two-fingering the clutch, my ring and pinkie fingers are NOT happy about it after a couple gear changes. Once I get my tail tidy ordered, a set of levers is next on my (quickly shrinking) list of things to buy. 

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No Hater
Despite the fact that I commonly shift with 3 fingers I decided to not get the short levers but, rather the normal length. Simply based on the fact that I often sit in traffic holding the clutch in with four. They are still shorter than stock and have the great benefit of being completely adjustable and more comfortable. The above levers mentioned of course are really nice although I went with the chinese machined ones and they work and look great.
 
 
These are the type I got.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pair-Adjustable-CNC-Long-Brake-Clutch-Levers-For-Yamaha-MT-07-2014-/321597503695?hash=item4ae0b478cf&vxp=mtr
 
 

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speedingtickets
Anyone's mechanic against aftermarket levers? Mine said no way, but I can't find any flaws. I checked the front wheel to see if it is breaking, it is fine. I took everything apart, put the Yamaha levers back on, spun the front wheel, put the aftermarkets back on. Has anyone gotten this advice from their mechanic? Maybe some bad levers made in the past?

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pantheraleo
That certainly didn't ruin my day. My front brakes don't move at all when the brake lever is fully out, nor do the react in any way for over 1/4" of pull.
 
How does Mike know that NONE of the aftermarket levers are safe? He's inspected them all? Not all aftermarket levers are manufactured in China, and some Chinese products are of good quality.
 
If you are more comfy with your OEM levers, go with them.

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